Menu items repeat themselves if less then 5 active

[RoChess]

Windows Version: Windows XP Home, SP2 with every critical and recommended patch applied
CPU Type: AMD64 3000+ Venice core E3 stepping, not overclocked (yet)
Memory: 2x 512MB GeIL DDR400 Dual-Channel
Motherboard: GigaByte GA-K8N51PVMT-9
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Motherboard Bios: Gigabyte F1
Video Card: onboard GeForce6150
Video Card Driver: 81.98
Sound Card: onboard RealTek HD 880
Sound Card AC3: using stereo out right now, S/P-DIF optical out planned
Sound Card Driver: Realtek HD Audio v5.10.0.5172
1. TV Card: ECS EZ-TV (TVP3XP)
1. TV Card Type: Analog
1. TV Card Driver: Mixed ECS+Philips Reference drivers, v2.3.0.0
2. TV Card:
2. TV Card Type:
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Power Supply: standard Aspire ATX 420Watt
Remote: EZ-TV remote + ATI Remote Wonder
TV: Philips 27" 27PT5445/37
TV - HTPC Connection: S-Video and/or Component


When less then 5 plugins are active for the 'Home' menu, then items get repeated.

This same issue occurs in the TVGuide list, when less then 7 channels are active, however my S/W capture card no longer works in latest CVS so I can not confirm if that bug still exists.

[Taipan]

This is not a bug......this is intended behaviour...

You can modify the skin to display less channels in the EPG, if you wish.

I believe there is also a way of changing the number of menu items displayed, but I don't recall how to do it right now.

[Commodore 64]

Heh, when I tried Meedio and the items didn't repeat, I was all upset. I prefer them to repeat.

[ender]

Originally Posted by Taipan

This is not a bug......this is intended behaviour...

You can modify the skin to display less channels in the EPG, if you wish.

I believe there is also a way of changing the number of menu items displayed, but I don't recall how to do it right now.

Well, intended or not, this is very bad usability. No menu should ever repeat items.

If there are less items than the visual length of the menu, no 'rolling' should happen.

[Commodore 64]

Really? I love the rolling. I think it is user-preference related so I guess MP has it right by giving you the optionto use it or shut it off.

[ender]

Originally Posted by Commodore 64

Really? I love the rolling. I think it is user-preference related so I guess MP has it right by giving you the optionto use it or shut it off.

Well, I'm not talking about getting rid of the rolling (I will later on ;-)) but if there are less items than the number of possible visual items in the list, then there shouldn't be rolling. In other words, you should never see this:

My TV
My Music
My TV
My Music
My TV
etc.

It should display it as:

My TV
My Music

No rolling.

And as promised.. I hate the rolling, it is a terrible way to select items in a list. I have seen myself passing the item way too often and see me ending up at the top of the list again. Try to select an item at the end of a long list. I can bet a lot of money on it that you will miss it and end up at the top of the list. That's bad. Fortunally, not many UI use this to select items in a dropdown list or a listbox in general.

Sorry, it may look nice but users have a hard time to use it. And as a UI designer by profession, I feel I have to advocate for them

PS: there are better ways to have rolling and not miss the last item. Like stopping at the end of the list and have the user repress the down button to initiate the rolling and move back to the top of the list.

[infinityloop]

Originally Posted by Ender

It should display it as:

My TV
My Music

No rolling.

yes, the rooling looks realy odd to me too. but a new skin working is under developement.