Controlling subtitles within MP (srt/sub/idx) - Page 3

chefkoch · 2006-08-26, 11:05

hi guys

I also have problems with the subtitles.
A few weeks i only installed vobsub, which works fine with the mp setting and the mapped button on my remote.

Since 3 days, after i did a reinstallation for the complete os, i wanted to try ffdshow and haali. what works for me?

if i want to change the subtitles within mp it gets the right subtitle streams (names) by haali and i can switch through them. but they are NOT shown in mp.
After activating in ffdshow they are shown and i can change the language within mp but i can't switch them off. When shown "untertitel aus" / disabled the first subtitle is used.

somebody find a way to fix it
best regards
chefkoch

Cinetix · 2006-08-26, 12:59

Unchecking subs in config doesn't do anything in my setup.

I think it's strange that a subtitle feature is part of MP without any documentation.

Nyll · 2006-08-26, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by keith2045

Nyll:
How did you get the mp to show subtitles with ffdshow? Did you check the show subtitles in mp config?

Hi Keith2045!

I just checked the show subtitles in ffdshow config and then it worked. If I want to change the font I also have to make the adjustment in ffdshow. I think the problem for me was, that an .ax file couldn't be found when I first installed ffdshow. When I installed ffdshow the first time I didn't choose the right folder for virtualdub and avisynth. The second time I installed ffdshow I choose the right folders for virtualdub and avisynth and then there was no problem.

About my remote...
I have not tried to map my remote yet, but I will try when I come home (I'm on holiday). Is it possible to make the mapping in hauppauge's own setup? Before ffdshow remote will work will I have to disable the "sub" button in MP?

/Nyll

keith2045 · 2006-08-26, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyll

Hi Keith2045!
About my remote...
I have not tried to map my remote yet, but I will try when I come home (I'm on holiday). Is it possible to make the mapping in hauppauge's own setup? Before ffdshow remote will work will I have to disable the "sub" button in MP?

/Nyll

No, you have to use MP's configuration. I dont think hauppauge has one.
You dont disable the sub button, you actually link it to a function, so when pressed it does what you want (you can pick any button you want, doesnt have to be the sub one). But first you should uncheck the show subtitles in ffdshow config. If that does nothing (you still see subtitles) then configuring the remote wont do anything. But if it does turn them off then you should be able to 'map' a function to one of your buttons on the remote to turn off subtitles.

Cinetix · 2006-08-26, 21:19

I think the solution is in the ffdshow video decoder config in “Keys & remote” but I can’t get it to work.
I’ve mapped a key to “Show subtitles” but no luck with that either.

Nyll · 2006-08-29, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinetix

I think the solution is in the ffdshow video decoder config in “Keys & remote” but I can’t get it to work.
I’ve mapped a key to “Show subtitles” but no luck with that either.

I have tried to make the remote work in Windows Media Player (with ffdshow). I have assigned the "S" key on my keyboard for toogling subtitles on/off. I doesn't work! Therefore I have not tried to use the remote control, cause I believe the setup is more complicated. The question is however if it's better to use another filter for showing the subtitles. Any recommandations?

/Nyll

wizard84 · 2006-09-04, 14:03

is there any way to fix this problem?i believe that is possible to implement an internal sub-switching.....

HappyTalk · 2006-09-05, 16:31

I'm also a bit confused about how sub files are supposed to work in MP. For an avi file with same named sub + idx they seem to appear no matter what setting I have in mp-config|movies|subtitles. I notice that during playback the subtitle dialog from the main menu appears blank when using sub files. With DVD's or .mkv's you can use the menu subtitle dialog properly (as well as reassigning subtitle key to # which DOES then turn them on/off). Subs do however ALWAYS default to on regardless of any settings you make in MP for mkv's (Matroska files).

SOLUTION:-
One thing that does work is to use this tool:- http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/ to merge the avi and sub(s) files into matroska format (takes about 2 mins). To play it back you will need to
Install haali matroska splitter http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/ AND THEN run haali media splitter settings and set Options|compatability|Autoload VS filter = YES. YOU MUST do that or MP WILL NOT EVEN play back Matroska files containing subtitles.
Obviously you will also need to install VobSubFilter to see the subs from here http://www.free-codecs.com/download/DirectVobSub.htm

wizard84 · 2006-11-14, 11:56

i had the same problem...if i want to install haali media splitter, i must activate subs in the ffdshow control panel....

PediaMortal · 2006-11-15, 16:41

Hi Guys,

Don't know if you're still checking this thread, but i was having similar issues, MP would play the subtitles but i couldn't switch them off, i only wanted 'forced subtitles'

I'm not sure what i did to get it to work but i unchecked 'subtitles' in MP Configuration, opened VobSub configuration in the installation directory and fidled with that, and hey presto it now only shows the force subtitles. there is a check box in VobSub Configuration to 'show only forced subtitles' and 'show subtitles' maybe you have these checked.

Have a look and let me know how you get on.

2006-08-26, 11:05	#21 (permalink)
chefkoch Portal Developer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Germany, Dresden Age: 22 Posts: 791 Thanks: 164 Thanked 51 Times in 34 Posts Country: My System	hi guys I also have problems with the subtitles. A few weeks i only installed vobsub, which works fine with the mp setting and the mapped button on my remote. Since 3 days, after i did a reinstallation for the complete os, i wanted to try ffdshow and haali. what works for me? if i want to change the subtitles within mp it gets the right subtitle streams (names) by haali and i can switch through them. but they are NOT shown in mp. After activating in ffdshow they are shown and i can change the language within mp but i can't switch them off. When shown "untertitel aus" / disabled the first subtitle is used. somebody find a way to fix it best regards chefkoch __________________ Do not start to moan if something is not working as you want it to be. Remember that MediaPortal is Open Source. YOU can improve it!

2006-09-05, 16:31	#28 (permalink)
HappyTalk Portal Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 270 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts My System	I'm also a bit confused about how sub files are supposed to work in MP. For an avi file with same named sub + idx they seem to appear no matter what setting I have in mp-config\|movies\|subtitles. I notice that during playback the subtitle dialog from the main menu appears blank when using sub files. With DVD's or .mkv's you can use the menu subtitle dialog properly (as well as reassigning subtitle key to # which DOES then turn them on/off). Subs do however ALWAYS default to on regardless of any settings you make in MP for mkv's (Matroska files). SOLUTION:- One thing that does work is to use this tool:- http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/ to merge the avi and sub(s) files into matroska format (takes about 2 mins). To play it back you will need to Install haali matroska splitter http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/ AND THEN run haali media splitter settings and set Options\|compatability\|Autoload VS filter = YES. YOU MUST do that or MP WILL NOT EVEN play back Matroska files containing subtitles. Obviously you will also need to install VobSubFilter to see the subs from here http://www.free-codecs.com/download/DirectVobSub.htm Last edited by HappyTalk; 2006-09-06 at 15:53.

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2006-08-26, 12:59	#22 (permalink)
Cinetix Portal Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unchecking subs in config doesn't do anything in my setup. I think it's strange that a subtitle feature is part of MP without any documentation.

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Cinetix Portal Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think the solution is in the ffdshow video decoder config in “Keys & remote” but I can’t get it to work. I’ve mapped a key to “Show subtitles” but no luck with that either.

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2006-11-15, 16:41	#30 (permalink)
PediaMortal Portal Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	Hi Guys, Don't know if you're still checking this thread, but i was having similar issues, MP would play the subtitles but i couldn't switch them off, i only wanted 'forced subtitles' I'm not sure what i did to get it to work but i unchecked 'subtitles' in MP Configuration, opened VobSub configuration in the installation directory and fidled with that, and hey presto it now only shows the force subtitles. there is a check box in VobSub Configuration to 'show only forced subtitles' and 'show subtitles' maybe you have these checked. Have a look and let me know how you get on.