DTS/Digital Playback through SPDIF.

Mish · 2006-08-24, 23:42

Area: Media Portal Program
MP Version: 0.2.0.0 (2006-07-03)
Windows Version: XPSP2
CPU Type: P4@2.0Ghz
Memory: 1GB SDRAM
Audio Codec Type & Version: I've tried about every combination.
Audio Card: MM Gear External USB Soundcard (MM-USC100)

Synopsis:

WinDVD7 plays DVDs out through SPDIF correctly.
The amplifier detects the DTS stream and plays it.

No codecs that I select in MediaPortal allow MediaPortal to playback DVD digital audio through SPDIF.
The closest I get is some codecs playback PCM through SPDIF.

I've tried every combination of filter (NVIDIA, Intervideo/WinDVD7, PowerDVD) and none of them seem to outout DTS through SPDIF in MediaPortal, yet WinDVD7 does perfectly when run standalone.
I've made sure all codecs are set to use SPDIF.

Can anyone suggest what I can do to troubleshoot this, or even better, a solution.

Brocklander · 2006-08-25, 04:31

I just set FFDShow as my audio decoder, and within FFDShow set DD and DTS to SPDIF. Easy as that!

Mish · 2006-08-30, 22:06

If I set FFDShow to SPDIF for DTS and AC3 it will sometimes (one in maybe 30 times) work. Looking at GraphEdit it shows me various things (depending on what codecs are installed) connecting to DirectSound or WaveOut... As you'd expect.

The confusing part for me is that when I play a DVD through SPDIF in WinDVD (Which always works and always outputs DTS/Digital/Dolby) it doesn't show up in GraphEdit, implying that it's doing something other than using its own filters?

If I use the WinDVD Codecs in Media Player I get PCM sound output through SPDIF and it shows up in GraphEdit. If I use WinDVD standalone I get Digital Output through SPDIF but it doesn't appear in GraphEdit.

Any suggestions, anyone?

orencha · 2006-08-31, 00:09

Mish,

I also had this problems with SPDIF pass-thru. It seems like the menu sounds of MediaPortal, prevent SPDIF usage somehow.

My solution: uncheck "Use GUI sound effects" in the MP config, and try again.
It works for me (currently using FFDshow in "SPDIF" mode for both AC3 and DTS).

Mish · 2006-09-03, 23:45

Yep, tried that, still no luck.
WinDVD works fine, but using any codecs (even WinDVDs) in MediaPortal means only PCM gets output over SPDIF (at best, usually nothing).
What really confuses me is that when I play a DVD using WinDVD it doesn't use any DirectShow filters, either it's hiding what it's using or it's outputting straight to SPDIF somehow.

elorentz · 2006-09-04, 22:33

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\InterVideo\Common\Audio Dec\"your app"\Audio = 6

This should help you, exchange "your app" is the program that you use to play dvd's, in your case it should be "media portal". audio = 6 means change the reg key named audio to have the value 6.

pierremenard · 2006-09-05, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mish

Yep, tried that, still no luck.
WinDVD works fine, but using any codecs (even WinDVDs) in MediaPortal means only PCM gets output over SPDIF (at best, usually nothing).
What really confuses me is that when I play a DVD using WinDVD it doesn't use any DirectShow filters, either it's hiding what it's using or it's outputting straight to SPDIF somehow.

I think it is your audio card needing to be set up. Does windows sounds (explorer clicks, flash applications etc) plays correctly over spdif? If not, you should set on your audio card control panel to use spdif as output. On my realtek (not really the state of the art) it worked. It's even possible to convert your analog input to digital and pass it through spdif, but you won't be able to use microphone if you do it so.

F.

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NLS · 2006-09-05, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by elorentz

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\InterVideo\Common\Audio Dec\"your app"\Audio = 6

This should help you, exchange "your app" is the program that you use to play dvd's, in your case it should be "media portal". audio = 6 means change the reg key named audio to have the value 6.

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mine has value 7... what does it mean?

elorentz · 2006-09-05, 13:25

Some decoders, like windvd and powerdvd has problems setting the right spdif setting for 3 part apps, by manualle changing the before mentioned registry key you force the ,in this case windvd, decoder into spdif mode. If you have 7 and it works for you don't change it, if it does not work for you try to change it to 6, the values are for windvd 7, don't know if they are the same for earlier versions.

NLS · 2006-09-05, 22:33

mine is the latest

I will check if AC3 or DTS switches on my decoder (some time ago it did, haven't checked lately)

2006-08-24, 23:42	#1 (permalink)
Mish Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DTS/Digital Playback through SPDIF. Area: Media Portal Program MP Version: 0.2.0.0 (2006-07-03) Windows Version: XPSP2 CPU Type: P4@2.0Ghz Memory: 1GB SDRAM Audio Codec Type & Version: I've tried about every combination. Audio Card: MM Gear External USB Soundcard (MM-USC100) Synopsis: WinDVD7 plays DVDs out through SPDIF correctly. The amplifier detects the DTS stream and plays it. No codecs that I select in MediaPortal allow MediaPortal to playback DVD digital audio through SPDIF. The closest I get is some codecs playback PCM through SPDIF. I've tried every combination of filter (NVIDIA, Intervideo/WinDVD7, PowerDVD) and none of them seem to outout DTS through SPDIF in MediaPortal, yet WinDVD7 does perfectly when run standalone. I've made sure all codecs are set to use SPDIF. Can anyone suggest what I can do to troubleshoot this, or even better, a solution.

2006-08-25, 04:31	#2 (permalink)
Brocklander Retired Team Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wellington Posts: 346 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Country: My System	I just set FFDShow as my audio decoder, and within FFDShow set DD and DTS to SPDIF. Easy as that! __________________ My HTPC \| Wiki Page for New Zealanders

2006-08-31, 00:09	#4 (permalink)
orencha Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ramat Gan Age: 32 Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	Mish, I also had this problems with SPDIF pass-thru. It seems like the menu sounds of MediaPortal, prevent SPDIF usage somehow. My solution: uncheck "Use GUI sound effects" in the MP config, and try again. It works for me (currently using FFDshow in "SPDIF" mode for both AC3 and DTS). __________________ - Oren. (learn more about Agent Oren - visit my website)

2006-09-05, 22:33	#10 (permalink)
NLS Portal Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 879 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	mine is the latest I will check if AC3 or DTS switches on my decoder (some time ago it did, haven't checked lately) __________________ NLS ...never thought I would advertise MP around that much, so soon... (and when some dev adds better menu handling, multiple calls to modules and plugins with different options and much better dbase handling, it will be love... ah and a nice 3D front end and inter-module messaging system and...) Don't argue with the founder of Greek Off-Topic Community about taking a thread off-topic. I cannot help it! My webshots album (contains the old version of my HTPC setup too)

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2006-08-30, 22:06	#3 (permalink)
Mish Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If I set FFDShow to SPDIF for DTS and AC3 it will sometimes (one in maybe 30 times) work. Looking at GraphEdit it shows me various things (depending on what codecs are installed) connecting to DirectSound or WaveOut... As you'd expect. The confusing part for me is that when I play a DVD through SPDIF in WinDVD (Which always works and always outputs DTS/Digital/Dolby) it doesn't show up in GraphEdit, implying that it's doing something other than using its own filters? If I use the WinDVD Codecs in Media Player I get PCM sound output through SPDIF and it shows up in GraphEdit. If I use WinDVD standalone I get Digital Output through SPDIF but it doesn't appear in GraphEdit. Any suggestions, anyone?

2006-09-03, 23:45	#5 (permalink)
Mish Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yep, tried that, still no luck. WinDVD works fine, but using any codecs (even WinDVDs) in MediaPortal means only PCM gets output over SPDIF (at best, usually nothing). What really confuses me is that when I play a DVD using WinDVD it doesn't use any DirectShow filters, either it's hiding what it's using or it's outputting straight to SPDIF somehow.

2006-09-04, 22:33	#6 (permalink)
elorentz Portal Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\InterVideo\Common\Audio Dec\"your app"\Audio = 6 This should help you, exchange "your app" is the program that you use to play dvd's, in your case it should be "media portal". audio = 6 means change the reg key named audio to have the value 6.

2006-09-05, 13:25	#9 (permalink)
elorentz Portal Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Some decoders, like windvd and powerdvd has problems setting the right spdif setting for 3 part apps, by manualle changing the before mentioned registry key you force the ,in this case windvd, decoder into spdif mode. If you have 7 and it works for you don't change it, if it does not work for you try to change it to 6, the values are for windvd 7, don't know if they are the same for earlier versions.

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