Dead HTPC - Page 2

Marcusb · 2006-10-14, 00:59

If the motherboard was dead you'd still hear the drives spinning up. They do this even when not connected to the motherboard.

My money is also on the 12v rail....
I don't think the motherboard power good led checks this, just the 5v rail.

NLS · 2006-10-14, 10:05

indeed my first guess is PSU

Flipit · 2006-10-14, 12:41

Thanks all,

There may be life in her still... I'll get in the loft an get my other PSU... No voltage across 12v to ground when PSU_ON is grounded.

Anyway my other PSU rattles like anything. Any good suggestions for a HTPC that will become my always on server. Preferably as quite as possible with removable power leads.. Tagan one I had was good, but the number of cables that stick out is a bit of a pain to tidy up in the case.

Thanks

Flipit

Efros · 2006-10-14, 12:57

get a modular PSU, only attach the cables you need, plus one with the biggest fan you can find.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0&sku=ULT31851

this one is 550W modular with a 120 mm fan, low speed=quiet.

BugsBunny · 2006-10-14, 15:05

I can recommend Seasonic PSUs:
http://www.seasonic.com/product/pc_atx.jsp
They are very quiet and highly energy efficient and they have still 300W models.
I've checked the power consumtion of my HTPC (athlon XP 1800+). At most it consumes 170 W. So in my case a 300W is more than sufficient. If I would use a 500W PSU the energy efficiency would be lower.
Maybe check the power consumtion of your HTPC with a wattmeter and then choose a PSU.
BTW after changing my PSU (generic vs seasonic) my wattmeter showed 20 W less power consumtion!

Flipit · 2006-10-14, 18:05

she lives....

PSU from the loft.. needed a diy excuse to go up there...

One small issue I've discovered though.. not sure if it's the PSU. When I plug in my 300G SATA drive the system just dies... like the CPU fan isn't getting enough power or something and triggering a shut down...

Even on it's own without the extra load of another drive and DVD player.

Odd... anybody know of duff drive causeing this... that would be a real bugger as all my musics on it !!!

Flipit

wishywashy · 2006-10-14, 19:22

Could be the drive that killed the first power supply. Sadly this has happened to me.

No power, ok I'll get a new P/S. Plug it all back in and as soon as the drive spins it dies. Remove drive and works no problems. Put drive in another system, same result. It starts to spin and I loose power. My vidoes and my music... gone.

NLS · 2006-10-14, 20:07

try it in an external enclosure... might be enough to salvage your data

Flipit · 2006-10-14, 21:01

The saga continues....

After running fine for most of the day on 1 drive, my Raptor.. which is less then 6months old...it suddenly switched off... thinking it may have overheated.. odd since it's been in the same case for like forever...I left it for a hour.. now everytime I power up, it boots to the windows logo and tries to start then just suddenly switches off... Tell me I didn't just fry the MOBO as well !!

This is definately not my week... anybody need any spare parts ;-)

Flipit

2006-10-14, 10:05	#12 (permalink)
NLS Portal Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 879 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	indeed my first guess is PSU __________________ NLS ...never thought I would advertise MP around that much, so soon... (and when some dev adds better menu handling, multiple calls to modules and plugins with different options and much better dbase handling, it will be love... ah and a nice 3D front end and inter-module messaging system and...) Don't argue with the founder of Greek Off-Topic Community about taking a thread off-topic. I cannot help it! My webshots album (contains the old version of my HTPC setup too)

2006-10-14, 12:41	#13 (permalink)
Flipit Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks all, There may be life in her still... I'll get in the loft an get my other PSU... No voltage across 12v to ground when PSU_ON is grounded. Anyway my other PSU rattles like anything. Any good suggestions for a HTPC that will become my always on server. Preferably as quite as possible with removable power leads.. Tagan one I had was good, but the number of cables that stick out is a bit of a pain to tidy up in the case. Thanks Flipit __________________ Hardware: P4 3.0GHz, ASUS P4C800-E, Radeon 9600XT, 1GB DDR2, 2x Nova-t 9002's, FloppyDTV-S, TRex, 300Gb WD HHD and a 74Gb Raptor, IMON PAD and VFD in a Silverstone LC10-M. Software: Windows XP Home SP 2, DirectX 9.0c, .NET 2.0, latest drivers, MP codecs, VMR9, ffdshow...and MBblue on my IPaq

2006-10-14, 12:57	#14 (permalink)
Efros Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 467 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	get a modular PSU, only attach the cables you need, plus one with the biggest fan you can find. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0&sku=ULT31851 this one is 550W modular with a 120 mm fan, low speed=quiet. __________________ "Here's to the electron may it never be of any use to anyone!" Allegedly a toast at the Royal Institute of Physics at the turn of the 20th Century. Current skin: Mepo Green

2006-10-14, 18:05	#16 (permalink)
Flipit Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	she lives.... PSU from the loft.. needed a diy excuse to go up there... One small issue I've discovered though.. not sure if it's the PSU. When I plug in my 300G SATA drive the system just dies... like the CPU fan isn't getting enough power or something and triggering a shut down... Even on it's own without the extra load of another drive and DVD player. Odd... anybody know of duff drive causeing this... that would be a real bugger as all my musics on it !!! Flipit __________________ Hardware: P4 3.0GHz, ASUS P4C800-E, Radeon 9600XT, 1GB DDR2, 2x Nova-t 9002's, FloppyDTV-S, TRex, 300Gb WD HHD and a 74Gb Raptor, IMON PAD and VFD in a Silverstone LC10-M. Software: Windows XP Home SP 2, DirectX 9.0c, .NET 2.0, latest drivers, MP codecs, VMR9, ffdshow...and MBblue on my IPaq

2006-10-14, 20:07	#18 (permalink)
NLS Portal Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 879 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	try it in an external enclosure... might be enough to salvage your data __________________ NLS ...never thought I would advertise MP around that much, so soon... (and when some dev adds better menu handling, multiple calls to modules and plugins with different options and much better dbase handling, it will be love... ah and a nice 3D front end and inter-module messaging system and...) Don't argue with the founder of Greek Off-Topic Community about taking a thread off-topic. I cannot help it! My webshots album (contains the old version of my HTPC setup too)

2006-10-14, 00:59	#11 (permalink)
Marcusb Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,957 Thanks: 71 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts Country: My System	If the motherboard was dead you'd still hear the drives spinning up. They do this even when not connected to the motherboard. My money is also on the 12v rail.... I don't think the motherboard power good led checks this, just the 5v rail.

2006-10-14, 15:05	#15 (permalink)
BugsBunny Portal Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tirol Posts: 151 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Country: My System	I can recommend Seasonic PSUs: http://www.seasonic.com/product/pc_atx.jsp They are very quiet and highly energy efficient and they have still 300W models. I've checked the power consumtion of my HTPC (athlon XP 1800+). At most it consumes 170 W. So in my case a 300W is more than sufficient. If I would use a 500W PSU the energy efficiency would be lower. Maybe check the power consumtion of your HTPC with a wattmeter and then choose a PSU. BTW after changing my PSU (generic vs seasonic) my wattmeter showed 20 W less power consumtion!

2006-10-14, 19:22	#17 (permalink)
wishywashy Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hill AFB, UT Age: 33 Posts: 458 Thanks: 15 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Country: My System	Could be the drive that killed the first power supply. Sadly this has happened to me. No power, ok I'll get a new P/S. Plug it all back in and as soon as the drive spins it dies. Remove drive and works no problems. Put drive in another system, same result. It starts to spin and I loose power. My vidoes and my music... gone.

2006-10-14, 21:01	#19 (permalink)
Flipit Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The saga continues.... After running fine for most of the day on 1 drive, my Raptor.. which is less then 6months old...it suddenly switched off... thinking it may have overheated.. odd since it's been in the same case for like forever...I left it for a hour.. now everytime I power up, it boots to the windows logo and tries to start then just suddenly switches off... Tell me I didn't just fry the MOBO as well !! This is definately not my week... anybody need any spare parts ;-) Flipit __________________ Hardware: P4 3.0GHz, ASUS P4C800-E, Radeon 9600XT, 1GB DDR2, 2x Nova-t 9002's, FloppyDTV-S, TRex, 300Gb WD HHD and a 74Gb Raptor, IMON PAD and VFD in a Silverstone LC10-M. Software: Windows XP Home SP 2, DirectX 9.0c, .NET 2.0, latest drivers, MP codecs, VMR9, ffdshow...and MBblue on my IPaq

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