ati remote wonder 9800 pro - tv problems

[savale]

My card: ati 9800pro All in wonder (rv40)

I installed:

latest 6.1 catalyst drivers
MP 2.0 rc2
ati mmc 9.13
ati dvd decoder
ati uci

I tried the latest MP cvs allready but it gives "can't create graph" errors
So I tried MP 2.0 rc2 and it works when I change some lines in the capturecarddefinitions file: replace rv34 to rv40.
After these modifications I can select the 9x00 VIVO driver and I can see some tv But These VIVO definitions are very simple when I compare it to the 9x00 and 9600 + definitions. Unfortunately it's the only one that works a little.
But it won't let me enable timeshifting also I can't hear an audio signal and see a black screen while recording (But there is an audio signal in the recording somehow)

Now I heard I can make my own definitions with graphedit, but I have no idea where to start. How can I convert the graphs to xml definitions and also xml back to graphs?

Or maybe even better: can someone give me a full working 9800pro definition that I can put in the capturecarddefinitions file.

Thank you for helping! :mrgreen:

edit #1:

When I take a look in the log files it give an error that I don't have installed the "encoderaudio" filter. Does anyone know where to get that filter?

[savale]

The definitions I should use with my 9800pro AIW?

  <capturecard commercialname="ATI AIW 9600 Cards or later" capturename="ATI Rage Theater Video Capture" devid="ntativrv40">
    <capabilities tv="true" radio="false" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="false"/>
    <tv>
      <interface cat="mux" video="" audio="" mpeg2="0"/>
      <filters>
        <filter cat="tvtuner"		name="ATI TV Tuner"						checkdevice="true"/>
        <filter cat="tvaudio"		name="ATI TV Audio"						checkdevice="true"/>
        <filter cat="crossbaraudio" name="ATI TV Audio Crossbar"    		checkdevice="true"/>      
        <filter cat="crossbarvideo" name="ATI Rage Theater Video Crossbar"	checkdevice="true"/>
        <filter cat="capture"  		name="ATI Rage Theater Video Capture"  	checkdevice="true"/>
        <filter cat="encodervideo"  name="ATI Media Center Video Encoder"	checkdevice="false"/>
        <filter cat="encoderaudio"  name="ATI Media Center Audio Encoder" 	checkdevice="false"/>
        <filter cat="mux"      		name="ATI Media Center Multiplexer"		checkdevice="false"/>
      </filters>
      <connections>
        <connection sourcefilter="tvtuner"       sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbaraudio"	sinkpin="2"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="tvtuner"       sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="tvaudio"			sinkpin="0"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="tvaudio"       sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbaraudio"	sinkpin="4"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="crossbaraudio" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbarvideo"	sinkpin="0"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="crossbaraudio" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="crossbarvideo"	sinkpin="2"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="crossbaraudio" sourcepin="2" sinkfilter="crossbarvideo"	sinkpin="1"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="crossbaraudio" sourcepin="3" sinkfilter="capture"			sinkpin="1"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="crossbarvideo" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture"			sinkpin="0"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="capture"       sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="encodervideo"	sinkpin="0"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="capture"       sourcepin="3" sinkfilter="encoderaudio"	sinkpin="0"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="encodervideo"  sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux"				sinkpin="1"/>
        <connection sourcefilter="encoderaudio"  sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux"				sinkpin="0"/>
      </connections>
    </tv>
  </capturecard>

This is what I had to change to get rid of the errors:

       <filter cat="encodervideo"  name="ATI MPEG Video Encoder"	checkdevice="false"/>
        <filter cat="encoderaudio"  name="ATI MPEG Audio Encoder" 	checkdevice="false"/>
        <filter cat="mux"      		name="ATI MPEGMultiplexer"		checkdevice="false"/>
      </filters>

The new drivers seems to have some name changes... It accepts the definition now, but I still see full black tv screen.

Should I try the catalyst 5.5 drivers instead of the 6.1? Or someone else got suggestions?

[dman_lfc]

It seems ATI have changed some filters required recently etc.

This is what you need to do...

When running the 9-13_encoder.exe program it creates a directory usually here...

C:\ati\SUPPORT\9-13_encoder

in there you'll see a file called Data1.cab - open this with say winzip
extract the file atimcenc.dll to a directory of your choice
then at the command prompt in that directory type regsvr32 atimcenc.dll
this will give you the required filters for MP.

note: there already was a ntativrv40 section.

If you have a VIVO board with that moniker let me know.

DMAN

[savale]

Originally Posted by dman_lfc

It seems ATI have changed some filters required recently etc.

This is what you need to do...

When running the 9-13_encoder.exe program it creates a directory usually here...

C:\ati\SUPPORT\9-13_encoder

in there you'll see a file called Data1.cab - open this with say winzip
extract the file atimcenc.dll to a directory of your choice
then at the command prompt in that directory type regsvr32 atimcenc.dll
this will give you the required filters for MP.

note: there already was a ntativrv40 section.

If you have a VIVO board with that moniker let me know.

DMAN

I am not sure I have a VIVO card (don't see anything about VIVO in the driver) But I got it a little more working now. There is no such file called atimcenc.dll in the 9.13 mmc of ati anymore. So i went back to 9.08. Now timeshifting works and recording works (also viewing while recording)
The only problem is the audio. It works when I record and play it back. But not when watching/timeshifting. I must say I don't use a very regular setup: I have an external tuner and I watch tv through the composite in of my ati 9800 pro aiw. In the "add capture card" section the "audio capture card" and "line input" are greyed out. So I don't know what to do about that? I connected the audio out of the tuner to my 9800 pro AIW in. I probably can fix it by use of a splitter to my amps, but I hope it's internally possible to direct the audio to my line out of my soundcard. (works well in ati mmc)

(ps. for a clean installation is it enough to register the atimcenc.dll instead of a full reinstall of ati mmc?)

Thank you for your fast reply.

[dman_lfc]

Yes just that dll is required.
Also mine download definately has that file in 9.13 of the encoder.

DMAN

[savale]

Originally Posted by dman_lfc

Yes just that dll is required.
Also mine download definately has that file in 9.13 of the encoder.

DMAN

strange I reinstalled it and tried searching for the file multiple times, but no result... is it possible for you to share the file? thanx! or send me an email with the file included? thanx

btw I tried everything to find the file in the 9.13 encoder version. But really couldn't find it. Do you have a link to the installer file that you used?