Flickering Tv-guide and other overlays with EVR enabled - Page 2

MoPhat · 2008-02-28, 13:45

Hi, i haqve noticed if i use the ATI MPEG 2 Decoder for SD channels, then there is no flickering on the GUI!!!

If i switch back to the MS MPEG2 or the Cyberlink Decoder then the flickering is back... (!?)

So for me works great with the ATI decoder.

MoPhat

pnyberg · 2008-02-28, 14:08

Thanks MoPHat!

Indeed it goes away when using ATI decoder - thanks!
However, still get flickering with HDTV (DVB-T h.264), this is true for both Cyberlink and ATI decoders.
Is that your experience as well?

Thanks

MoPhat · 2008-02-28, 14:31

Yes is it, but on most time i'am watching SD channels.

So its for me not so a huge problem (for the moment)

MoPhat

pnyberg · 2008-03-02, 13:33

MoPhat:

Even if ATI decoder eliminates the flickering, it also isn't using DXVA. So it is considerably much worse picture than with Cyberlink decoder. So in my opinion it is no solution.

So it would be very nice to hear if any people out there is using EVR and Cyberlink 7 decoder with DXVA enabled who doesn't have the flickering?

I really suspect there is some problem with the EVR implementation in MP.

MoPhat · 2008-03-02, 15:04

Hi, i have with the ATI decoder a nice picture seems to be the same like the MSMPEG2 or Cyberlink Codec (for deinterlacing).

For me doesnt make any difference to use DXVA or not for SD Channels.

MoPhat

tourettes · 2008-03-02, 15:17

I had that same flickering on my ATI 3450, it did went a way after switching back to Nvidia's 7600GS (I had to switch back as the HDMI signal is not always sent by ATI's driver and that causes lot of no signal issues with the current LCD TV I have).

pnyberg · 2008-03-02, 17:04

MoPhat & Tourettes for your input.

Well perhaps only an ATI HDxxx problem then?

I also have some occasional "microstutters" with h.264 as I've reported here:

Occasional (micro)stutters with EVR and h.264 DVB-T - does not happen in DVBViewer.

Perhaps also related to the EVR implementation (or only ATI HDxxxx problem) ?

As I've said it would be interesting to hear more people report their experinces with ATI HDxxxx and EVR.

Eabin · 2008-03-04, 15:04

i get that too

didn't guess that it could be evr related, and as others have said, i have been busy with real life lately. but it is rather annoying, and i will try to find a fix.

pnyberg · 2008-03-04, 15:23

thanks, eabin for your input.

It is always good to get some feedback, even if you don't get any solution right away..!

Let me know if you want some help testing.

MoPhat · 2008-03-05, 22:04

Today is launching the catalyst 8.3 drivers, which eliminates some flickering in some modes (!).

i will give it a try when its available for download!

maybe its fixed...

MoPhat

2008-02-28, 14:08	#12 (permalink)
pnyberg Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stockholm Age: 37 Posts: 264 Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Country: My System	Thanks MoPHat! Indeed it goes away when using ATI decoder - thanks! However, still get flickering with HDTV (DVB-T h.264), this is true for both Cyberlink and ATI decoders. Is that your experience as well? Thanks __________________ Most wanted feature(s) in MP/TVE3: [TV Card priority when recording (Workaround for the time being.)]

2008-03-02, 13:33	#14 (permalink)
pnyberg Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stockholm Age: 37 Posts: 264 Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Country: My System	MoPhat: Even if ATI decoder eliminates the flickering, it also isn't using DXVA. So it is considerably much worse picture than with Cyberlink decoder. So in my opinion it is no solution. So it would be very nice to hear if any people out there is using EVR and Cyberlink 7 decoder with DXVA enabled who doesn't have the flickering? I really suspect there is some problem with the EVR implementation in MP. __________________ Most wanted feature(s) in MP/TVE3: [TV Card priority when recording (Workaround for the time being.)]

2008-03-02, 15:17	#16 (permalink)
tourettes Portal Developer Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 30 Posts: 3,466 Thanks: 92 Thanked 115 Times in 93 Posts	I had that same flickering on my ATI 3450, it did went a way after switching back to Nvidia's 7600GS (I had to switch back as the HDMI signal is not always sent by ATI's driver and that causes lot of no signal issues with the current LCD TV I have). __________________ http://day2.no-ip.org/ "Commy64 - The problem there is that Oprah was on. MP tried to save you by blanking the screen"

2008-03-02, 17:04	#17 (permalink)
pnyberg Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stockholm Age: 37 Posts: 264 Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Country: My System	MoPhat & Tourettes for your input. Well perhaps only an ATI HDxxx problem then? I also have some occasional "microstutters" with h.264 as I've reported here: Occasional (micro)stutters with EVR and h.264 DVB-T - does not happen in DVBViewer. Perhaps also related to the EVR implementation (or only ATI HDxxxx problem) ? As I've said it would be interesting to hear more people report their experinces with ATI HDxxxx and EVR. __________________ Most wanted feature(s) in MP/TVE3: [TV Card priority when recording (Workaround for the time being.)]

2008-03-04, 15:23	#19 (permalink)
pnyberg Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stockholm Age: 37 Posts: 264 Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Country: My System	thanks, eabin for your input. It is always good to get some feedback, even if you don't get any solution right away..! Let me know if you want some help testing. __________________ Most wanted feature(s) in MP/TVE3: [TV Card priority when recording (Workaround for the time being.)]

2008-02-28, 13:45	#11 (permalink)
MoPhat MP Donator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berg, Switzerland Age: 35 Posts: 697 Thanks: 6 Thanked 54 Times in 13 Posts Country: My System	Hi, i haqve noticed if i use the ATI MPEG 2 Decoder for SD channels, then there is no flickering on the GUI!!! If i switch back to the MS MPEG2 or the Cyberlink Decoder then the flickering is back... (!?) So for me works great with the ATI decoder. MoPhat

2008-02-28, 14:31	#13 (permalink)
MoPhat MP Donator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berg, Switzerland Age: 35 Posts: 697 Thanks: 6 Thanked 54 Times in 13 Posts Country: My System	Yes is it, but on most time i'am watching SD channels. So its for me not so a huge problem (for the moment) MoPhat

2008-03-02, 15:04	#15 (permalink)
MoPhat MP Donator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berg, Switzerland Age: 35 Posts: 697 Thanks: 6 Thanked 54 Times in 13 Posts Country: My System	Hi, i have with the ATI decoder a nice picture seems to be the same like the MSMPEG2 or Cyberlink Codec (for deinterlacing). For me doesnt make any difference to use DXVA or not for SD Channels. MoPhat

2008-03-04, 15:04	#18 (permalink)
Eabin Portal Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 375 Thanks: 6 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts	i get that too didn't guess that it could be evr related, and as others have said, i have been busy with real life lately. but it is rather annoying, and i will try to find a fix.

2008-03-05, 22:04	#20 (permalink)
MoPhat MP Donator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berg, Switzerland Age: 35 Posts: 697 Thanks: 6 Thanked 54 Times in 13 Posts Country: My System	Today is launching the catalyst 8.3 drivers, which eliminates some flickering in some modes (!). i will give it a try when its available for download! maybe its fixed... MoPhat

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