Question about Pausing Live TV

cojones · 2006-05-17, 01:52

Area: Media Portal Program
MP Version: .2 RC4
Skin: MCE
Windows Version: XP SP2
CPU Type: AMD 3.2
Memory: 1G
Motherboard Chipset: Gigabyte KV8M800M All in One
Video Card: Gigabyte 5200 128M
Video Card Driver: NVIDIA
Video Card Resolution: 800*600
Video Render Type:
Video Codec Type & Version: Intervideo Video Decoder
Audio Codec Type & Version: Intervideo Audio Decoder
TV Card: DVICO fusion Plus DVB-T
TV Card Driver:
Optional Log:
Optional References:

Question:

I have been setting up my HTPC with MP for a couple of weeks now.
When I pause live TV, the image stays on the screen for a couple of seconds then goes black, when I restart it seems to restart at least a couple of seconds after the pause position.
Is this how it is supposed to work, or do I have a problem?

Thanks in advance for any help or useful comments.

samuel337 · 2006-05-17, 03:09

When it goes 'black', does the screen still display the 'Pause' message and the timeline?

Sam

cojones · 2006-05-17, 03:14

Sam,
Actually, yes it does. Sorry, I should have added that to my original post.

samuel337 · 2006-05-17, 07:05

Hmm... seems odd. Does timeshifting work normally (i.e. can you rewind live TV)?

Also, can you find out which video/audio codec you're using? Do this by going to MP Configuration -> TV.

Also, if you can, can you post a log of this - open up MP, reproduce your problem, close MP, post the contents of the mediaportal.log file here - its located in Mediaportal\log.

Sam

NLS · 2006-05-17, 08:07

definately doesn't look normal - when you press pause it should just pause at the frame you pressed the key and then "unpause" like nothing happened...

pirlone · 2006-05-17, 14:14

do you press pause while timeshif on or off... i'm asking because that's how mp are responding when you press pause while ts is off (mp then automatically activates timeshifting and needs time to make buffer file)...

rgs,
pirlone

cojones · 2006-05-18, 01:32

Samuel337.
My video codec is Intervideo Video Decoder,
My audio codec is Intervideo Audio Decoder.
When ts is on I have no problem rewinding live TV.

Pirlone,
You are correct, that is exactly what is happenning.
When timeshifting is on, the pause works correctly, when it is off,
it skips a couple of seconds.

But the reason I had timeshiffting off was because when it is on, it causes my video/audio to stutter.

While I was testing this last night I found something very weird.
With ts on and while I was experiencing stutter watching live TV (no pausing had been done yet), for some reason I pressed the fast forward button on my remote, there was nothing to ffd, but the stuttering stopped.

I reproduced this many times.

So can anyone explain this?
Has anyone experienced this also?
If you are having stuttering problems with ts on, could you please try this to see if you have the same result.

Thanks for your comments.

pirlone · 2006-05-18, 08:00

are you on some of the latest .svn or just plain .2rc4?

i remember there was probs like you describing once and ffwd was a workaround for this, but right now (with 30.04 svn) my dvb-t and dvb-s works flawlessly without stuttering while ts on...

rgs,
pirlone

cojones · 2006-05-18, 08:13

Pirlone,
I am running plain .2rc4 but I will download the latest SVN and test it tonight.

Thanks heaps I appreciate it.

scoop · 2006-05-18, 08:19

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by cojones

Pirlone,
You are correct, that is exactly what is happenning.
When timeshifting is on, the pause works correctly, when it is off,
it skips a couple of seconds.

This is expected behaviour. When TS is off, MP has to stop and restart TV to enable timeshifting (so you can pause live TV). If you want instant pause, you'll always have to have timeshifting enabled. You can enable timeshifting from My TV Home. The pause feature needs timeshifting enabled. Basically the pause button allows you to instantly enable timeshifting for TV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cojones

Pirlone,
But the reason I had timeshiffting off was because when it is on, it causes my video/audio to stutter.

Have you tried different codecs for TV? Try with MPEG2Dec for video and MPEG/AC3/DTS/LPCM for audio.

Kind regards,
Michel

2006-05-17, 01:52	#1 (permalink)
cojones Portal Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Question about Pausing Live TV Area: Media Portal Program MP Version: .2 RC4 Skin: MCE Windows Version: XP SP2 CPU Type: AMD 3.2 Memory: 1G Motherboard Chipset: Gigabyte KV8M800M All in One Video Card: Gigabyte 5200 128M Video Card Driver: NVIDIA Video Card Resolution: 800*600 Video Render Type: Video Codec Type & Version: Intervideo Video Decoder Audio Codec Type & Version: Intervideo Audio Decoder TV Card: DVICO fusion Plus DVB-T TV Card Driver: Optional Log: Optional References: Question: I have been setting up my HTPC with MP for a couple of weeks now. When I pause live TV, the image stays on the screen for a couple of seconds then goes black, when I restart it seems to restart at least a couple of seconds after the pause position. Is this how it is supposed to work, or do I have a problem? Thanks in advance for any help or useful comments.

2006-05-17, 08:07	#5 (permalink)
NLS Portal Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 879 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	definately doesn't look normal - when you press pause it should just pause at the frame you pressed the key and then "unpause" like nothing happened... __________________ NLS ...never thought I would advertise MP around that much, so soon... (and when some dev adds better menu handling, multiple calls to modules and plugins with different options and much better dbase handling, it will be love... ah and a nice 3D front end and inter-module messaging system and...) Don't argue with the founder of Greek Off-Topic Community about taking a thread off-topic. I cannot help it! My webshots album (contains the old version of my HTPC setup too)

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2006-05-17, 03:09	#2 (permalink)
samuel337 Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 773 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When it goes 'black', does the screen still display the 'Pause' message and the timeline? Sam

2006-05-17, 03:14	#3 (permalink)
cojones Portal Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sam, Actually, yes it does. Sorry, I should have added that to my original post.

2006-05-17, 07:05	#4 (permalink)
samuel337 Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 773 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmm... seems odd. Does timeshifting work normally (i.e. can you rewind live TV)? Also, can you find out which video/audio codec you're using? Do this by going to MP Configuration -> TV. Also, if you can, can you post a log of this - open up MP, reproduce your problem, close MP, post the contents of the mediaportal.log file here - its located in Mediaportal\log. Sam

2006-05-17, 14:14	#6 (permalink)
pirlone Portal Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country: My System	do you press pause while timeshif on or off... i'm asking because that's how mp are responding when you press pause while ts is off (mp then automatically activates timeshifting and needs time to make buffer file)... rgs, pirlone

2006-05-18, 01:32	#7 (permalink)
cojones Portal Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Samuel337. My video codec is Intervideo Video Decoder, My audio codec is Intervideo Audio Decoder. When ts is on I have no problem rewinding live TV. Pirlone, You are correct, that is exactly what is happenning. When timeshifting is on, the pause works correctly, when it is off, it skips a couple of seconds. But the reason I had timeshiffting off was because when it is on, it causes my video/audio to stutter. While I was testing this last night I found something very weird. With ts on and while I was experiencing stutter watching live TV (no pausing had been done yet), for some reason I pressed the fast forward button on my remote, there was nothing to ffd, but the stuttering stopped. I reproduced this many times. So can anyone explain this? Has anyone experienced this also? If you are having stuttering problems with ts on, could you please try this to see if you have the same result. Thanks for your comments.

2006-05-18, 08:00	#8 (permalink)
pirlone Portal Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country: My System	are you on some of the latest .svn or just plain .2rc4? i remember there was probs like you describing once and ffwd was a workaround for this, but right now (with 30.04 svn) my dvb-t and dvb-s works flawlessly without stuttering while ts on... rgs, pirlone

2006-05-18, 08:13	#9 (permalink)
cojones Portal Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pirlone, I am running plain .2rc4 but I will download the latest SVN and test it tonight. Thanks heaps I appreciate it.