Remote questions

Spagbol · 2006-07-09, 00:45

Wonder if someone can clear this up for me...

I would like to be able to initiate and also wake up from S3 standby via my remote. I understand this is possible using the USB wakeup ability of the mobo.
Now here's the rub... I way prefer my hauppauge remote over the MCE remote but that uses a serial IR blaster, not USB. I could get a USB-UIRT and use my Hauppauge remote with the USB-UIRT plugin being developed, but I can get an MCE remote (with USB IR blaster) for about half the price.

Having a variety of serial IR receivers from different remotes, I noticed they all just translate the remote signal the same way (I could use any IR receiver and same remote would work with all of them).

Does the USB IR receiver work the same way? Does the MCE IR blaster deliver the same data to the PC as any other USB IR blaster (e.g. USB-UIRT)? If so I could just get an MCE remote and receiver cheap and use the IR receiver with my Hauppauge remote?

I appreciate that if that works, MP would only process the Hauppauge codes and as such would have no command for wake from standby, but could I remap the Power button to do so? If not, would the USB-UIRT plugin work with the MCE IR receiver? I could then use the MCE IR receiver and 'learn' the button to remap the function?

Sorry for a lot of confuzzled questions!!

mPod · 2006-07-09, 07:03

MP does not interprete remote control signals, it interpretes the receiver commands. A Hauppauge remote would not work using an MCE receiver, cause the MCE receiver won't send commands to MP when it sees Hauppauge IR signals. (Vice versa it works limited) It might work with USBUIRT, tho. But that I don't know, only have some Hauppauge & MCE here.

Btw, I developed the Hauppauge remote for MP, so was very addicted to the Hauppauge 45-button remote. But as soon as I had an MCE remote (and rewrote support for it), I never used the Hauppauge remote anymore when enjoying MP, only for testing, etc. The MCE remote fits better into the hand, has backlight and is more relaxing for the hand. Just my 2 cents. :wink:

Spagbol · 2006-07-09, 13:03

Thanks for your quick reply mPod.

After reading more about this, can you confirm that the limitation of using a Hauppauge remote with the MCE receiver is a driver issue (i.e. MCE driver not knowing how to interpret the IR signal into a command)?
So, if the MCE receiver won't relay the commands to MP can I use a 3rd party driver to interpret the IR signals and a utility like uIce or HIP to forward the command to MP?

Hauggauge Remote --> MCE IR receiver & HIP --> MP

HIP includes a replacement MCE driver which can control the input and output of the MCE receiver and allows learning of commands from any remote. The driver can receive RC5X/RC6/RC6A/REC-80 protocol commands. (Info and source code for the driver is available along with the whole discussion on its development from here.)

If this is flogging a dead horse I will try the MCE remote (it's the layout I don't like) and I also have a Marantz RC9200 I could program, but that just takes so long to do!!

mPod · 2006-07-09, 16:27

Could work, no idea. :wink:

You'd have to configure HIP to send keystrokes to MP.

2006-07-09, 00:45	#1 (permalink)
Spagbol Portal Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Remote questions Wonder if someone can clear this up for me... I would like to be able to initiate and also wake up from S3 standby via my remote. I understand this is possible using the USB wakeup ability of the mobo. Now here's the rub... I way prefer my hauppauge remote over the MCE remote but that uses a serial IR blaster, not USB. I could get a USB-UIRT and use my Hauppauge remote with the USB-UIRT plugin being developed, but I can get an MCE remote (with USB IR blaster) for about half the price. Having a variety of serial IR receivers from different remotes, I noticed they all just translate the remote signal the same way (I could use any IR receiver and same remote would work with all of them). Does the USB IR receiver work the same way? Does the MCE IR blaster deliver the same data to the PC as any other USB IR blaster (e.g. USB-UIRT)? If so I could just get an MCE remote and receiver cheap and use the IR receiver with my Hauppauge remote? I appreciate that if that works, MP would only process the Hauppauge codes and as such would have no command for wake from standby, but could I remap the Power button to do so? If not, would the USB-UIRT plugin work with the MCE IR receiver? I could then use the MCE IR receiver and 'learn' the button to remap the function? Sorry for a lot of confuzzled questions!!

2006-07-09, 07:03	#2 (permalink)
mPod Retired Team Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Berlin Age: 34 Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Country: My System	MP does not interprete remote control signals, it interpretes the receiver commands. A Hauppauge remote would not work using an MCE receiver, cause the MCE receiver won't send commands to MP when it sees Hauppauge IR signals. (Vice versa it works limited) It might work with USBUIRT, tho. But that I don't know, only have some Hauppauge & MCE here. Btw, I developed the Hauppauge remote for MP, so was very addicted to the Hauppauge 45-button remote. But as soon as I had an MCE remote (and rewrote support for it), I never used the Hauppauge remote anymore when enjoying MP, only for testing, etc. The MCE remote fits better into the hand, has backlight and is more relaxing for the hand. Just my 2 cents. :wink: __________________ Bad news from the stars... We cannot give any support without a properly filled support template and a full mediaportal.log pasted here. Before you ask...

2006-07-09, 16:27	#4 (permalink)
mPod Retired Team Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Berlin Age: 34 Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Country: My System	Could work, no idea. :wink: You'd have to configure HIP to send keystrokes to MP. __________________ Bad news from the stars... We cannot give any support without a properly filled support template and a full mediaportal.log pasted here. Before you ask...

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2006-07-09, 13:03	#3 (permalink)
Spagbol Portal Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for your quick reply mPod. After reading more about this, can you confirm that the limitation of using a Hauppauge remote with the MCE receiver is a driver issue (i.e. MCE driver not knowing how to interpret the IR signal into a command)? So, if the MCE receiver won't relay the commands to MP can I use a 3rd party driver to interpret the IR signals and a utility like uIce or HIP to forward the command to MP? Hauggauge Remote --> MCE IR receiver & HIP --> MP HIP includes a replacement MCE driver which can control the input and output of the MCE receiver and allows learning of commands from any remote. The driver can receive RC5X/RC6/RC6A/REC-80 protocol commands. (Info and source code for the driver is available along with the whole discussion on its development from here.) If this is flogging a dead horse I will try the MCE remote (it's the layout I don't like) and I also have a Marantz RC9200 I could program, but that just takes so long to do!!