Q: TVE3 = poorer PQ for (HW)analogue card users? - Page 10

chemelli · 2008-05-15, 10:26

In tomorrow SVN release there will be a new QualityControl for analog users (thanx MisterD)

You will find it under "MediaPortal TV Setup" -> "TvServers" -> "<your machine name>" -> "your analog card name" -> Quality control (next to Scanning).

Simone

mcraenz · 2008-05-15, 10:38

Quote:

In tomorrow SVN release there will be a new QualityControl for analog users (thanx MisterD)

Does this mean that the issues with choppy video at high bitrates has been resolved?

robby3 · 2008-05-15, 16:34

I hope that tweaking the controls help to remove the very annoying stuttering of my HVR-4000 card (currently only using analouge input). I use the latest Vista64 drivers from Hauppauge and getting hick-ups every ca.0.8 sec, voice and audio. The quality is good but I'm afraid that it will decrease with removing the stuttering. Is the default still 8000 with RC01 ?

Sidenote: The stuttering already appears in preview on the server (I did a single seat install on the server and client on the bedroom PC)

robby3 · 2008-05-18, 22:00

Bad luck. After installing the SVN and testing the system comes back with a message that the encoder does not support quality control so I cannot change any setting. What does that mean exactly ? I use the current 64-bit version of the HVR-4000 driver but as mentioned previously the quality is still poor with a lot of bucking.

Spragleknas · 2008-05-18, 23:00

I think this is due to the fact that the HVR400 uses a software encoder for analogue - not hardware encoder.

(chemelli, misterd or diehard2 might correct me or elaborate on this)

robby3 · 2008-05-18, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spragleknas

I think this is due to the fact that the HVR400 uses a software encoder for analogue - not hardware encoder.

(chemelli, misterd or diehard2 might correct me or elaborate on this)

Sounds like your right. It seems that MP in general does have problems with all analouge cards that are using a software encoder. I tried three including a USB stick and none was a succes until today.

@chemelli : you have the same card, but have you ever tried the analouge part with success ?

Thanks
robby

Pe2RM · 2008-05-19, 01:01

I have a Hauppauge PVR350. The specs says it has a hardware encoder/decoder but the new Quality Control says it doesn't support it.
In past, using the old standalone MP, i could use the Quality Control. So why can't this latest SVN do it?

Anyway, since MP 1.0RC1 its much more stable, great job!

WebKnight · 2008-05-19, 08:53

It works for me (PVR500 MCE) Have you updated your drivers? I'm using the new 4.4 CD driver.

Does anyone know what bitrate the different choises in the quality control is?

Pe2RM · 2008-05-19, 13:12

Just checked at the Hauppauge site. l'am already using the latest driver driver for Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Encoder/Decoder, wich is V1.18.21.23257.
I can change the bitrate, bitratemode and bitratepeak in the Video Properties tab using GraphEdit, and see the effect of it.
Settings in this Video Properties tab cannot be stored, as earlier noted in this thread. But they can be stored in the Globespan IVac15 registry entries and became active after a reboot.
Can somebody acknowledge that it should be possible (or not) with a PVR350?

chrik · 2008-05-19, 14:17

I also have problems with my Hauppauge, but it is a 150 model also analogue. Does everybody with a anlogue Hauppage tv tuner have problems? Like "robby3" I also get a lot of hick-ups.

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robby3 Portal Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country:	I hope that tweaking the controls help to remove the very annoying stuttering of my HVR-4000 card (currently only using analouge input). I use the latest Vista64 drivers from Hauppauge and getting hick-ups every ca.0.8 sec, voice and audio. The quality is good but I'm afraid that it will decrease with removing the stuttering. Is the default still 8000 with RC01 ? Sidenote: The stuttering already appears in preview on the server (I did a single seat install on the server and client on the bedroom PC) Last edited by robby3; 2008-05-15 at 16:38.

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2008-05-15, 10:26	#91 (permalink)
chemelli Portal Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy - Padova Age: 34 Posts: 907 Thanks: 37 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts Country: My System	In tomorrow SVN release there will be a new QualityControl for analog users (thanx MisterD) You will find it under "MediaPortal TV Setup" -> "TvServers" -> "<your machine name>" -> "your analog card name" -> Quality control (next to Scanning). Simone

2008-05-18, 22:00	#94 (permalink)
robby3 Portal Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country:	Bad luck. After installing the SVN and testing the system comes back with a message that the encoder does not support quality control so I cannot change any setting. What does that mean exactly ? I use the current 64-bit version of the HVR-4000 driver but as mentioned previously the quality is still poor with a lot of bucking.

2008-05-19, 01:01	#97 (permalink)
Pe2RM Portal Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	I have a Hauppauge PVR350. The specs says it has a hardware encoder/decoder but the new Quality Control says it doesn't support it. In past, using the old standalone MP, i could use the Quality Control. So why can't this latest SVN do it? Anyway, since MP 1.0RC1 its much more stable, great job!

2008-05-19, 08:53	#98 (permalink)
WebKnight Portal Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Akershus Age: 33 Posts: 78 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	It works for me (PVR500 MCE) Have you updated your drivers? I'm using the new 4.4 CD driver. Does anyone know what bitrate the different choises in the quality control is?

2008-05-19, 13:12	#99 (permalink)
Pe2RM Portal Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	Just checked at the Hauppauge site. l'am already using the latest driver driver for Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Encoder/Decoder, wich is V1.18.21.23257. I can change the bitrate, bitratemode and bitratepeak in the Video Properties tab using GraphEdit, and see the effect of it. Settings in this Video Properties tab cannot be stored, as earlier noted in this thread. But they can be stored in the Globespan IVac15 registry entries and became active after a reboot. Can somebody acknowledge that it should be possible (or not) with a PVR350?

2008-05-19, 14:17	#100 (permalink)
chrik Portal Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	I also have problems with my Hauppauge, but it is a 150 model also analogue. Does everybody with a anlogue Hauppage tv tuner have problems? Like "robby3" I also get a lot of hick-ups.