Announcement: MediaPortal II

[Rexxars]

Originally Posted by infinityloop

you know that this is a task for the TV-Server (IPTV) and not for the Client (MP2) right?

Interesting, I did not know that. Why would reading a stream be implemented into a server though? Seems like a client task to me..? Setting up the stream is no problem when you've got great tools like VLC (which I'd want to use anyway, since it's multiplatform), I'd just like to see the ability to play the streams. Something more advanced than Windows Media Players crappy streaming support (needs to be ASF and is relatively strict on codecs, aswell).

[mr_minning]

@Rexxars: Hope I'm not too stupid now but I gotta ask why you have to stream it via UDP? What's the benefit compared to using Samba shares which you connect to in MP?

Regards!

[Rexxars]

Originally Posted by mr_minning

@Rexxars: Hope I'm not too stupid now but I gotta ask why you have to stream it via UDP? What's the benefit compared to using Samba shares which you connect to in MP?

Regards!

I've got 600+ movies in a share and it takes a good 30 seconds just to load the list of files. Every time you go back one step, it use another 30 seconds to load the list again. It's really annoying. It would also be easier to make a proper "cinema"-kind of plugin where you just select a movie from a list, it sends a request to the server which sets up a VLC stream and it starts playing it.

In my experience, high quality movies actually stream better than they play through samba. UDP is not limited in any way, while Samba can't maintain a speed of more than 12-15MB/s.

[mcraenz]

A little off topic, but I think it would be nice to have an option to stream TV over TCP rather than UPD this would make viewing on wireless clients possible.

[Spragleknas]

Originally Posted by infinityloop

you know that this is a task for the TV-Server (IPTV) and not for the Client (MP2) right?

Yes. I guess we are waiting for some kind of virtual TV-card - like what has been done with the radio-part.

Even so, when I think/speak of MP - I include the TV-server.

[infinityloop]

Originally Posted by Rexxars

Interesting, I did not know that. Why would reading a stream be implemented into a server though?

because users want to record what they see on IPTV?
and browse all their IPTV-Channels like real TV channels?

configure all IPTV channels once on the Server -> appearing as ordinary TV-Channels on all Clients. you dont want that?

[pannivas]

Originally Posted by Rexxars

I've got 600+ movies in a share and it takes a good 30 seconds just to load the list of files. Every time you go back one step, it use another 30 seconds to load the list again. It's really annoying. It would also be easier to make a proper "cinema"-kind of plugin where you just select a movie from a list, it sends a request to the server which sets up a VLC stream and it starts playing it.

In my experience, high quality movies actually stream better than they play through samba. UDP is not limited in any way, while Samba can't maintain a speed of more than 12-15MB/s.

hmm i stream only and many HD movies using windows shares and i have absolutley no problem. And why would you even want to stream at 15MB/sec. You do realise that 15MB/sec is more than a 100mbits lan connection. Even HD movies don't need that bandwidth. Even the highest HDDVD and Bluray movies do that at max 40Mbits which is around 5MB/sec.

I use the Movies Database and i have a db of 250 movies and a friend that i know has a db of 300 movies and it only takes a few seconds to load it the first time. Which by the way that dosent even use your network because the db is local to the MP client and it loads that from the MP HDD. And when changing pages there is absolutley no problem with it.

[Rexxars]

Originally Posted by infinityloop

because users want to record what they see on IPTV?
and browse all their IPTV-Channels like real TV channels?

configure all IPTV channels once on the Server -> appearing as ordinary TV-Channels on all Clients. you dont want that?

Of course- I didn't think of it as more than a UDP stream, I don't have IPTV so I didn't really think about that when I wrote it, heh.

Originally Posted by pannivas

hmm i stream only and many HD movies using windows shares and i have absolutley no problem. And why would you even want to stream at 15MB/sec. You do realise that 15MB/sec is more than a 100mbits lan connection. Even HD movies don't need that bandwidth. Even the highest HDDVD and Bluray movies do that at max 40Mbits which is around 5MB/sec.

I use the Movies Database and i have a db of 250 movies and a friend that i know has a db of 300 movies and it only takes a few seconds to load it the first time. Which by the way that dosent even use your network because the db is local to the MP client and it loads that from the MP HDD. And when changing pages there is absolutley no problem with it.

That's weird, might be a problem with the implementation of samba on my FreeBSD box then. HD movies stutter every once in a while, say every 30 seconds, so I just assumed it was the throughput. Works fine when I stream the movie, heh.

I haven't bothered to update the movie database until yesterday, it's still running, about 80% of the movies are done. Sure takes a while to get all that IMDB info, heh. I'll see if it runs better when it's all done. I just thought it was strange that mediaportal takes 10 seconds to list a folder while Windows explorer takes about 0.5 seconds to do the same.

Will let you know how it goes :-)

[pannivas]

even from windows explorer viewed in thumbnail view it will take a few seconds to load all the thumbs up.

if you have problems with your HD movies i suggest you check your Hardware first and then the codecs. Those two are the primary reason of problems with HD movies. Especially the x.264 1080p encoded ones really need some powerfull CPUs. x.264 has no video card HW accelaration so you need a fast CPU to do decode them ok.

[vvulture]

Awesome !! Great news but....

Would it be possible to get a stable TVE3 first ?