TV Server timeshifting issue

hermy65 · 2007-08-30, 17:37

Sometimes when im watching live tv it will stop, go back and play from earlier in the episode, or when i go to change to a different channel it will play like a 30 second clip over and over again and wont change the channel, so i have to end task on mp and then stop the tvservice and delete the ts.buffer files then restart everything and it works.

TV3-08-23-2007 01-23h Revision 15633
MP-08-23-2007 01-02h - Revision:15633

Mew · 2007-08-30, 19:19

Hi hermy65

I take it you are not using the new filter to read .ts files that Frodo has developed?

I believe eliminating this know bug was one of the reasons for developing the filter to replace the old unsupported one.

See http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/he...er-t24998.html for the thread and details on how to use the filter.

Remember it is still being refined.

Mew

hermy65 · 2007-08-30, 19:31

im actually saving everything as mpeg, is that not the best thing to do? and if not could somebody explain the difference between ts and mpeg for me?

Mew · 2007-08-30, 19:44

Hi hermy65

I may be wrong but I believe .ts is the television stream as broadcast. So it is normally contains MPEG2 for standard definition DVB plus additional info where broadcast such as subtitles, alternative audio channels, MHEG-5 info and possibly more.

If you record as MPEG you will get the MPEG part but lose the additional information as the format does not hold it. On the plus side MPEG is more standard if you wish to play it in other applications or burn to disc. I think you need an application to convert .ts to MPEG.

Again, I may be wrong, but I think for TV Server the filter (new and old) is used to read both .ts and MPEG files, .ts being a superset of MPEG.

Mew

grubi · 2007-08-30, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by hermy65

im actually saving everything as mpeg, is that not the best thing to do? and if not could somebody explain the difference between ts and mpeg for me?

You shoud be careful. There is an issue in mantis (0001099) which describes that the mpges TVServer3 creates are corrupt.

grubi.

hermy65 · 2007-08-30, 20:21

so you guys are recomending that i switch and use ts from now on? Also, other then making that text file is there anything else i should do?

Also, do i need to upgrade my tv3 and mp?

Mew · 2007-08-30, 21:14

I did have issues when I first built my HTPC in April 2007 using TV3 and saving files as MPEG. The files should have been around 2Gb but were only @ 300Mb. They contained audio but only the odd frame of picture here and there. This obviously did not go down well with the family. I then switched to .ts and have had no problems so far with it.

This was a known problem at the time and may be the one grubi is referring to (I checked Matis but was unable to find 001099, probably the view I was seeing).

Mew

grubi · 2007-08-30, 21:57

http://mantis.team-mediaportal.com/view.php?id=1099

hermy65 · 2007-08-30, 22:11

ok, my question now is, do i need to do anything to start recording in ts with the new filter? I use analog tv at the moment.
Can you give me any tips for getting the best picture quality i possibly can?

hermy65 · 2007-09-01, 05:02

*bump*

anyone able to tell me what all i need to do to use this?

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2007-08-30, 19:19	#2 (permalink)
Mew Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Age: 37 Posts: 198 Thanks: 8 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts Country: My System	Hi hermy65 I take it you are not using the new filter to read .ts files that Frodo has developed? I believe eliminating this know bug was one of the reasons for developing the filter to replace the old unsupported one. See http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/he...er-t24998.html for the thread and details on how to use the filter. Remember it is still being refined. Mew

2007-08-30, 19:31	#3 (permalink)
hermy65 Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	im actually saving everything as mpeg, is that not the best thing to do? and if not could somebody explain the difference between ts and mpeg for me?

2007-08-30, 19:44	#4 (permalink)
Mew Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Age: 37 Posts: 198 Thanks: 8 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts Country: My System	Hi hermy65 I may be wrong but I believe .ts is the television stream as broadcast. So it is normally contains MPEG2 for standard definition DVB plus additional info where broadcast such as subtitles, alternative audio channels, MHEG-5 info and possibly more. If you record as MPEG you will get the MPEG part but lose the additional information as the format does not hold it. On the plus side MPEG is more standard if you wish to play it in other applications or burn to disc. I think you need an application to convert .ts to MPEG. Again, I may be wrong, but I think for TV Server the filter (new and old) is used to read both .ts and MPEG files, .ts being a superset of MPEG. Mew

2007-08-30, 20:21	#6 (permalink)
hermy65 Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	so you guys are recomending that i switch and use ts from now on? Also, other then making that text file is there anything else i should do? Also, do i need to upgrade my tv3 and mp?

2007-08-30, 21:14	#7 (permalink)
Mew Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Age: 37 Posts: 198 Thanks: 8 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts Country: My System	I did have issues when I first built my HTPC in April 2007 using TV3 and saving files as MPEG. The files should have been around 2Gb but were only @ 300Mb. They contained audio but only the odd frame of picture here and there. This obviously did not go down well with the family. I then switched to .ts and have had no problems so far with it. This was a known problem at the time and may be the one grubi is referring to (I checked Matis but was unable to find 001099, probably the view I was seeing). Mew

2007-08-30, 21:57	#8 (permalink)
grubi Portal Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 576 Thanks: 22 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts Country: My System	http://mantis.team-mediaportal.com/view.php?id=1099

2007-08-30, 22:11	#9 (permalink)
hermy65 Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok, my question now is, do i need to do anything to start recording in ts with the new filter? I use analog tv at the moment. Can you give me any tips for getting the best picture quality i possibly can?

2007-09-01, 05:02	#10 (permalink)
hermy65 Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	bump anyone able to tell me what all i need to do to use this?