DVB-S EPG (SI Data)

[MoPhat]

Why does the TVS3 not use the EPG scan when a transponder is selected and a chanel is viewed instead of scaning if the card is in the standby?

i mean, people is viewing tv like Sat1 (Germany) on the same time TVS3 can read the SI data and put it in the database, also the rest of the chanels where is on the same transponder!

can this be done because, epg scaning is very slow and the MP is almost used (95%) for watching tv...there is no time to grap the epg data from satelite.

its prossible?

thanks
MoPhat

[ronilse]

Hi,
The reason this was disabled when card is used was because it caused stuttering & high cpu load..

Regards
Roy

[MoPhat]

Ok, i have a Dreambox 7000S for the "normal" TV experience and this can this do while i'm viewing tv.

You can look on the dreambox sourcecodes (Open Source) how to handle that.
On my Intel Dual 2 Core i have not very much CPU load while the PC is getting the SI data....(!?)


Thanks
MoPhat

[tourettes]

I guess it's not the EPG grabbing itself, but the DB update thats causing stuttering on some systems and therefore EPG grabbing has been disabled during recording / watching live tv. One possibility would be to add config option to allow EPG grabbing during recording / watching tv.

[misterd]

Hi,
I really would like to see this option. I'm using the tvserver in a single-seat setup and so my system isn't running when I don't use MP.
Since the db update is causing the stuttering, it might help to slow down and optimize the update process. For example the tvserver could update the db for one channel and than sleep for a while before the next channel is processed. Another solution could be to optimize the database structure and the SQL statement, but this could be very complicated, because the server supports two different DMBS.
Just my two cents.

Regards,
MisterD

[MoPhat]

I have yesterday foramted and installed new my system.

then i have tuned the channels, after this i had select that only a few channels are scanned for epg...
after 4 hours i have checked the values in the sql express db...

in the table was a lot of channels what i'm not selected to grab the dvb-egp!
there are some french channels. i had only selected german channels like pro7, sat1, rtl etc.


is there any problem that the process not get the correct channels?
or is this scanning all on the transponder if there is one selected?

@tourettes

One possibility would be to add config option to allow EPG grabbing during recording / watching tv.

Witch setting on witch config file are this?

thanks
MoPhat

[MoPhat]

Hier a example:

My Channel List witch should grab DVB-EPG

name       grabEPG
-----------------------------------
2457	                True
3sat	                True
ANIXE HD	                True
arte	                True
ASTRA HD	                True
ASTRA HD+	True
Bayerisches FS	True
BBC World	True
BR-alpha	                True
CNBC Europe	True
CNN Int.	                True
COMEDY CENTRAL Germany	True
Das Erste	True
DAS VIERTE	True
DELUXE MUSIC	True
Deutsches Gesundheitsfernsehen	True
DMAX	                True
DrDish Television	True
DSF	                True
EinsExtra	                True
EinsPlus	                True
EuroNews	True
Eurosport	                True
GIGA	                True
hr-fernsehen	True
imusic TV	                True
kabel eins	True
KiKa	                True
MDR FERNSEHEN	True
MOTORS TV	True
MTV Germany	True
N24	                True
NICK Germany	True
n-tv	                True
ProSieben	True
ProSieben HD	True
RTL Television	True
RTL2	                True
SAT.1	                True
Sat.1 HD	                True
Sky News	                True
SR Fernsehen	True
Super RTL	                True
TechniTipp-TV	True
TELE 5	                True
TIER.TV	                True
VIVA Germany	True
VOX	                True
ZDF	                True
ZDFdokukanal	True
ZDFinfokanal	True

This is what im get

name                       Count       grapEPG
24 HORAS 	2	False
24 HORAS (1)	2	False
40 TV	                2	False
AL JAZEERA ENG	2	False
Al Masriya	                1	False
ANDALUCÍA TV	2	False
ARAGON TV	2	False
BARÇA TV	                2	False
BBC World	2	True
BLOOMBERG	3	False
BOOMERANG	3	False
C+ ACCIÓN	2	False
C+ ACCIÓN (1)	2	False
C+ COMEDIA	2	False
C+ COMEDIA (1)	2	False
C+ DCINE	                2	False
C+ DCINE (1)	2	False
C+ EVENTOS	3	False
C+ EVENTOS (1)	2	False
CALLE 13	                2	False
CANAL ESTRELLAS	2	False
CANAL HISTORIA	2	False
CANAL ODISEA	2	False
CANAL+	                2	False
CANAL+ 2	                2	False
CARTOON NET.	2	False
Cartoon Network	2	False
CAZA Y PESCA	2	False
CLAN  TVE	3	False
CLÁSICO	                2	False
CNBC Europe	2	True
CNN Int.	                2	True
CNN+	                2	False
CNN+ (1)	                2	False
COSMOPOLITAN	2	False
CUATRO	                2	False
CUATRO (1)	2	False
DELUXE MUSIC	3	True
DISCOVERY	2	False
DISNEY CH. +1	3	False
DISNEY CHANNEL	2	False
DMAX	            108	True
DOCU TVE	2	False
DrDish Television	51	True
DW-TV EUROPA	240	False
EHS	                2	False
EURONEWS	2	False
EUROSPORT	2	False
EUSKADI TV	2	False
France 24 (en Francais)	2	False
France 24 (in English)	3	False
Franken SAT	28	False
HOLLYWOOD	2	False
INTERECONOMÍA	2	False
JETIX	                3	False
Kabel 1 Austria	141	False
Kabel 1 Schweiz	149	False
LA 2	                2	False
LokalSAT	                68	False
MÉTEO	                3	False
MÉTEO (1)	3	False
MEZZO.	                2	False
MTV ESP	                2	False
münchen.TV/RFO	197	False
N24	                285	True
Nick ESP	                3	False
Omroep Brabant Televisie	2	False
Omroep Zeeland Televisie	2	False
Omrop Fryslan Televisie	2	False
ONTV Regional	28	False
PARAMOUNT COM	2	False
PEOPLE+ARTS	2	False
PLAYHOUSE	2	False
PORTADA	2	False
ProSieben Austria	103	False
ProSieben Schweiz	107	False
RADIO INT	1	False
REAL MADRID TV	2	False
REDERECORD	2	False
SAT.1 A	                109	False
SAT.1 CH	                100	False
Sky News	                2	True
SPORTMANÍA	3	False
TAQUILLA 1	2	False
TAQUILLA 10	2	False
TAQUILLA 2	2	False
TAQUILLA 3	3	False
TAQUILLA 4	2	False
TAQUILLA 5	3	False
TAQUILLA 6	2	False
TAQUILLA 7	2	False
TAQUILLA 8	2	False
TAQUILLA 9	2	False
TAQUILLA X	2	False
TAQUILLA XX	2	False
TAQUILLA XX (1)	2	False
TAQUILLA XY	2	False
TCM	                2	False
TCM (1)	                3	False
TCM CLÁSICO	2	False
TELEDEPORTE	2	False
TELENOVELAS	2	False
TELENOVELAS (1)	2	False
TM SAT/LAOTRA	3	False
TNT	                2	False
TNT (1)	                3	False
TOON DISNEY	3	False
TV CANARIA	2	False
TV Drenthe	2	False
TV GALICIA	3	False
TV Gelderland	2	False
TV Noord	                2	False
TV Noord-Holland	2	False
TV Oost	                2	False
TV Rijnmond	2	False
TV5MONDE EUROPE	60	False
TVC INT.	                2	False
VH1	                2	False
VIAJAR	                2	False
VIAJAR (1)	2	False

this are my selected channels grab

name                       Count       grapEPG
BBC World	2	True
CNBC Europe	2	True
CNN Int.	                2	True
DELUXE MUSIC	3	True
DMAX	                108	True
DrDish Television	51	True
N24	                285	True
Sky News	                2	True

Whats wrong here?



MoPhat

[gemx]

That's normal.
TVE3 always scans the whole transponder of a given channel and returns epg for ALL channels on that transponder if you checked only one channel or channels of that transponder for epg grabbing.
To store epg only for the selected channels you can check the checkbox in SetupTV under "TVChannels->TV EPG Grabber" named "Store data only for selected channels"

[MoPhat]

@gemx

I will try

The DVB-EP Scan ins now about 1/2 hour in progress and has only written 4 Programms from 2 Channels in the DB (!!??))

here are my EPG Log with a lot of timeouts , my Timeout setting is now at 15min and rescann all 480min.

21.08.2007 14:22:28 14 EPG: grabber stopped..
21.08.2007 14:22:28 14 Epg: card:1 stop grab
21.08.2007 14:22:30 14 EPG: grabber initialized for 19 transponders..
21.08.2007 14:22:31 8 epg:Grab for card:#1 transponder #0 index:1/3 last:01.01.2000 00:00:00 type:3 freq:11597000 mod:-1 sr:22000 bw:8 pol:2
21.08.2007 14:22:31 8 grab epg card:#1 transponder: #0 ch:BBC World 
21.08.2007 14:22:31 8 Epg: card:1 start grab DVBS:tv:BBC BBC World Freq:11597000 ONID:1 TSID:1026 SID:10050 PMT:742 FTA:True LCN:10000 SymbolRate:22000 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:LinearV InnerFecRate:Rate5_6 DisEqc:None band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
21.08.2007 14:23:34 16 dvb:mhw ready MHW 0 titles found
21.08.2007 14:23:34 16 dvb:dvb ready.EPG 3 channels
21.08.2007 14:23:34 16 Epg: card:1 received epg for 3 channels
21.08.2007 14:23:34 19 Epg: card:1 Remove old programs from database
21.08.2007 14:23:34 19 Epg: card:1 Updating database with new programs
21.08.2007 14:23:34 19 Epg: card:1 :1 DW-TV EUROPA not needed. Channel not configured to grab/store epg
21.08.2007 14:23:34 19 Epg: card:1 :2 TV5MONDE EUROPE not needed. Channel not configured to grab/store epg
21.08.2007 14:23:34 19 Epg: card:1 :3 Sky News not needed lastUpdate:21.08.2007 14:02:17
21.08.2007 14:24:01 6 epg:Grab for card:#1 transponder #2 index:0/4 last:01.01.2000 00:00:00 type:3 freq:11973000 mod:-1 sr:27500 bw:8 pol:2
21.08.2007 14:24:01 6 grab epg card:#1 transponder: #2 ch:MTV Germany 
21.08.2007 14:24:02 6 Epg: card:1 start grab DVBS:tv:MTV Networks Europe MTV Germany Freq:11973000 ONID:1 TSID:1078 SID:28673 PMT:19D FTA:True LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:LinearV InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:None band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
21.08.2007 14:39:31 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 15.49285811 mins
21.08.2007 14:40:01 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 15.9930820766667 mins
21.08.2007 14:40:31 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 16.4933060433333 mins
21.08.2007 14:41:01 8 Epg: card:1 timeout after 16.99353001 mins
21.08.2007 14:41:31 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 17.493767685 mins
21.08.2007 14:42:01 8 Epg: card:1 timeout after 17.994007685 mins
21.08.2007 14:42:31 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 18.494247685 mins
21.08.2007 14:43:01 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 18.994487685 mins
21.08.2007 14:43:31 8 Epg: card:1 timeout after 19.494727685 mins
21.08.2007 14:44:01 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 19.994967685 mins
21.08.2007 14:44:31 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 20.495207685 mins
21.08.2007 14:45:01 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 20.995447685 mins
21.08.2007 14:45:31 8 Epg: card:1 timeout after 21.495687685 mins
21.08.2007 14:46:01 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 21.995927685 mins
21.08.2007 14:46:31 8 Epg: card:1 timeout after 22.4961704416667 mins
21.08.2007 14:47:01 6 Epg: card:1 timeout after 22.9964136483333 mins
21.08.2007 14:47:31 8 Epg: card:1 timeout after 23.496656855 mins
21.08.2007 14:48:01 8 Epg: card:1 timeout after 23.9969000616667 mins

[tourettes]

Originally Posted by MoPhat

Witch setting on witch config file are this?

I was refering to a possibility to add that kind of feature in the future.