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Country: | I know Frodo already said that you can enable DxVA and HWMC in the register but this is a request for a more complete support for it; Microsoft DirectX Video Acceleration (DirectX VA), both for hardware acceleration (motion compensation) and post-processing, (simple options should be added in MediaPortal GUI settings and/or auto-detect if the video cards supported it and to what extent ): Hope MediaPortal developer(s) can look into if this could be fully used within MediaPortal for all supported codecs and hardware? Summery: Microsoft DirectX Video Acceleration (DXVA) allows DirectShow based software applications to accelerate video playback directly on the graphics processors (GPU). If your graphics processor supports DXVA and has built-in technology to accelerate DVD and MPEG-2 file playback, then DXVA can provide (GPU) hardware acceleration. DVXA is an application programming interface (API) and a corresponding motion compensation device driver interface (DDI) for acceleration of digital video decoding. DDIs are also provided as part of DXVA; a deinterlacing DDI for deinterlacing and frame-rate conversion of video content, and a to support ProcAmp DDI control and postprocessing of video content. A good exampel of the benifits of using DVXA for video acceleration is that you can decode HDTV (ATSC/DTV) MPEG-2 with a PIII 733Mhz CPU, a task that would normaly require a PIII 1400Mhz CPU if the card does not support DVXA HWMC. Other post-processing featutes achivable via DVXA (if the video adapter hardware support it): - Hardware iDCT motion compensation and subpicture decoding - Hardware based IDCT (Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform) - IQ (Inverse quantization) - Fullframe video playback of HDTV and DVD content on slow CPU's (733Mhz +) - Independent hardware color controls for video overlay - Hardware colorspace conversion (YUV 4:2:2 and 4:2:0) - 5tap horizontal by 3tap vertical filtering - 8:1 up/down scaling - Perpixel color keying - Multiple video windows supported for CSC and filtering - DVD subpicture alphablended compositing - Alpha-Blending Surface Developer links: - Enabling DirectX Video Acceleration in a custom player - Windows Media Format 9.5 SDK Enabling DirectX Video Acceleration - DVXA API/DDI Specification (Rev 1.0) (DirectX 8.1 C++ Archive) - DirectX Video Acceleration Video Subtypes (DirectX 9.0 C++ Archive) - IAMVideoAccelerator Operational Specification (DirectX 9.0 C++ Archive) - Microsoft Developer information on DirectX Video Acceleration - DirectShow DirectX Video Acceleration Video Subtypes - Microsoft Development Network search result on DVXA - DirectX Video Acceleration Motion Compensation Callbacks - Calling the Deinterlace DDI from a User-Mode Component - Per-Pixel Alpha Blending (DirectX 9.0 C++ Archive) ....AND MUCH MORE available on a Microsoft Development Network search Exampel of above DXVA technology in use is the newly announced "nVIDIA DVD Decoder", (as almost GForce/nForce GPU's support it). nVIDIA DirectX Video Acceleration (DXVA) support MPEG-2 acceleration for: Inverse quantization (IQ), Inverse discrete cosine transform (IDCT) Motion compensation (mo comp) Enables advanced de-interlacing Decodes high-definition MPEG-2 http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder.html http://www.nvidia.com/object/decoder_faq.html PS! nVIDIA's part in the GPU that support this is called HDVP (High Defininition Video Processor) / VPE (Video Processing Engine) |
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| dxva is a codec feature, not so much a player feature. You should bug the ffdshow guys to work on a dxva implement of their generic routines, or the xvid guys (which would then allow ffdshow xvid routines to use it). I remember back in the day when my ati aiw rage pro could playback dvd resolution mpeg2 files on a p100, simply because the rage pro did hardware motion compensation, while everyone else was complaining about how badly dvd's looked on their 300mhz systems. DXVA would be a huge step in the right direction, especially for a system that multitasks such as an htpc where it might be recording a tv stream while decoding a different one. I know most of the htpc users are using hardware mpeg2 cards, but if you haven't noticed even transferring to ide takes a good chunk of cpu. Even offloading just the post processing would result in huge speed ups. But I digress, this is something you need to take up with the codec makers. |
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Country: | @Meat_PoPsiclez, no offence to you but I think I rather get a reply/answer from Frodo now that he's back :wink: I don't agree with "DXVA is a codec feature" as I know it's so much more than that, at least it can be for MP 8) PS! OFF-TOPIC; Any plans of integrating a version/derivitive of FFdshow into MediaPortal (with DXVA) :roll:
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| Actually the DXVA you are talking about is completely a Video codec feature. What do you mean you know it can be much more than that??? http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/de...celeration.asp |
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Country: | I did some reading on DXVA, and as far as i understand it now this is the case: -DXVA is implement in a codec (like nvidia's DVD codec) -For normal playback the application doesnt need todo anything The codec will negotiate with the video renderer if DXVA is supported by your system and ifso will it use it -For streaming content DXVA is not used by default and the application has to add it manually Again, these are my first conclusions. This is a huge topic and I still got lot to learn & read before i can say that the above statements are true. Anyway, don't worry MP will have DXVA support. Either automagiclly or manually added by us. (Offcourse provided that you have a DVXA codec and your system is capable of using DXVA) Frodo |
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(maybe start a own derivative branch version that is designed and optimized for Media Portal)
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Country: | Mario64 found out that you can set some registry keys to enable DxVA for the intervideo codecs. MP has been modified to set those keys automaticly for you Frodo |
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Country: | Not sure where to submit so => http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...978#post577978 ...still like to see FFdshow original (or even better a derivitive) in the MediaPortal installation package :wink:
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Country: | adding ffdshow, xmltv, vobsub etc etc will make the setup much larger which is not very nice for users who have a small internet bandwith connection We are currently looking into a way to auto-download the (latest) versions of these apps from the install/configuration So on 1st run it will ask the user whether or not to download it and if the user agrees it will be downloaded & installed frodo |
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| ok, this maybe off-topic, but I can't help being amazed time and time again by the effort and the quality you put into this project. keep up the good work and, really, really, thank you. |
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