confusing roadmap for RC2

sylvio2000 · 2008-06-10, 14:14

Since the last 2 weeks I watch the progress of fixing bugs for Mediaportal RC1 and Tv-Server.
But I have seen that every 1 or 2 days new bugs are added to the fix-list and the percentage of already solved bugs is shrinking.

Dont take me wrong. It is fantastic that bugs are fixed, but imho there should be a limit of a maximum number of bugs for rc1.

At the moment there seems to be no end for the progress of fixing bugs

Hope you understand what I mean. Maybe someone can clear me up

rtv · 2008-06-10, 15:41

The team decides for "small bugs" which are vital to be fixed for Version 1.0 if they can be done "quickly". If yes they'll be fixed for the next Release Candidate.

Keep in mind that there are also people who are not that familar with open source principles and googleish "everything is beta status". Those consider a "Release Candidate" absolutely different - more like a static version which ALREADY is the 1.0 (if all goes well).

So finally we try to find the best compromise between "RC2 has no critical issues" and "RC2 is almost final 1.0".

sylvio2000 · 2008-06-10, 19:03

Ok, I think I understand your philosophy

Hope it doesnt take too long until RC2. Cant wait to test the new version.

Btw: Will there be a RC3?

GoldenEye · 2008-06-10, 22:38

I would doubt that - considering that ther's a bug list to be solved in version 1.0.0.1 belwo the end of the RC2 list of bugs.

G.

Gixxer · 2008-06-15, 12:25

new RC3 section added to roadmap.

it would be nice to know what is the difference between RC2, RC3, 1.0.0.1... and why are bugs added to RC3 instead of RC2.

sylvio2000 · 2008-06-26, 12:46

Yes, I also would like to know why some bugs are added for RC3 and not for RC2. There must be some kind of priority.

Btw, I think RC2 is comming within the next days. We are already at 98%

revs · 2008-06-26, 15:20

The whole alpha/beta/RC thing seems to vary between projects and companies. I see it as follows:

alpha - missing features, probably buggy, work in progress. very early stages
beta - all major features complete (although maybe not bug free or working correctly)
RC - a Release Candidate is just that. A build that is good enough to be a Release. You then get a RC2 is there is a bug found in the RC. There should not really be that many RC builds (if you do your bug testing/fixing correctly at beta stage!). The final RC is declared a "Golden Master".

There are no set rules however, and at the end of the day it doesnt matter as long as the product is as good as it can be!!

sylvio2000 · 2008-06-26, 17:37

Ok, I think you understand me wrong

I do know what an alpha/beta/RC ist, but I just would like to know, why there are already some bugs listed for RC3 when RC2 isnt released yet.
There must be a reason for doing this

chemelli · 2008-06-26, 18:40

RC2 is coming so nothing can be assigned to this release, otherwise go in a never ending loop.
New discovered bugs are then assigned to RC3 to log them and don't forget about

Simone

tourettes · 2008-06-26, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by chemelli

RC2 is coming so nothing can be assigned to this release, otherwise go in a never ending loop.
New discovered bugs are then assigned to RC3 to log them and don't forget about

Also some bugs are assigned to devs that dont currently have free time for development.Of cource there is no reason to delay RC2 because of that and those bugs are assigned to RC3.

2008-06-10, 14:14	#1 (permalink)
sylvio2000 Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 62 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	confusing roadmap for RC2 Since the last 2 weeks I watch the progress of fixing bugs for Mediaportal RC1 and Tv-Server. But I have seen that every 1 or 2 days new bugs are added to the fix-list and the percentage of already solved bugs is shrinking. Dont take me wrong. It is fantastic that bugs are fixed, but imho there should be a limit of a maximum number of bugs for rc1. At the moment there seems to be no end for the progress of fixing bugs Hope you understand what I mean. Maybe someone can clear me up

2008-06-10, 15:41	#2 (permalink)
rtv Portal Developer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Osnabruck Posts: 2,523 Thanks: 85 Thanked 97 Times in 71 Posts Country: My System	The team decides for "small bugs" which are vital to be fixed for Version 1.0 if they can be done "quickly". If yes they'll be fixed for the next Release Candidate. Keep in mind that there are also people who are not that familar with open source principles and googleish "everything is beta status". Those consider a "Release Candidate" absolutely different - more like a static version which ALREADY is the 1.0 (if all goes well). So finally we try to find the best compromise between "RC2 has no critical issues" and "RC2 is almost final 1.0". __________________

2008-06-10, 22:38	#4 (permalink)
GoldenEye Portal Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 188 Thanks: 16 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	I would doubt that - considering that ther's a bug list to be solved in version 1.0.0.1 belwo the end of the RC2 list of bugs. G. __________________

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sylvio2000 Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 62 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	Ok, I think I understand your philosophy Hope it doesnt take too long until RC2. Cant wait to test the new version. Btw: Will there be a RC3?

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sylvio2000 Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 62 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	Yes, I also would like to know why some bugs are added for RC3 and not for RC2. There must be some kind of priority. Btw, I think RC2 is comming within the next days. We are already at 98%

2008-06-26, 15:20	#7 (permalink)
revs Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Age: 25 Posts: 364 Thanks: 9 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts Country: My System	The whole alpha/beta/RC thing seems to vary between projects and companies. I see it as follows: alpha - missing features, probably buggy, work in progress. very early stages beta - all major features complete (although maybe not bug free or working correctly) RC - a Release Candidate is just that. A build that is good enough to be a Release. You then get a RC2 is there is a bug found in the RC. There should not really be that many RC builds (if you do your bug testing/fixing correctly at beta stage!). The final RC is declared a "Golden Master". There are no set rules however, and at the end of the day it doesnt matter as long as the product is as good as it can be!!

2008-06-26, 17:37	#8 (permalink)
sylvio2000 Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 62 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country: My System	Ok, I think you understand me wrong I do know what an alpha/beta/RC ist, but I just would like to know, why there are already some bugs listed for RC3 when RC2 isnt released yet. There must be a reason for doing this

2008-06-26, 18:40	#9 (permalink)
chemelli Portal Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy - Padova Age: 34 Posts: 1,094 Thanks: 50 Thanked 48 Times in 39 Posts Country: My System	RC2 is coming so nothing can be assigned to this release, otherwise go in a never ending loop. New discovered bugs are then assigned to RC3 to log them and don't forget about Simone