Media Portal and Hybrid Tuners Help

[Freak]

So i have been using MP for a few months with a Dual Digital HD tuners.
However in this time i've been unable to get S-Video or Analog Tuners working.

(TVServer0.3 detects my Hybrid cards, but doesn't work at with it)

So i'm trying to manually hack a config that will allow me to view Cable/Foxtel/Svideo along side my Dual Digital Tuners...

So far this is what i know: This is my card
http://digitalnow.com.au/product_pages/DNTVDualS2.html

Which is actually a rebadged KWorld PCI-E (PE-310)

http://www.kworld.com.tw/en/index_PCI-E.htm

The card uses a Philips BDA 7162 Digital and Philips BDA 7162 Analog chipset.

Here is the CaptureCard Definition that is used:

<capturecard commercialname="Philips SAA7162 Hybrid Tuner0" capturename="7162 BDA Digital Capture0" devid="ven_1131&amp;dev_7162&amp;subsys_753117de&a mp;rev_01">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="false" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="true"/>
<tv>
<interface cat="capture" video="2" audio="3" mpeg2="1" sectionsandtables="5"/>
<filters>
<filter cat="networkprovider" name="Microsoft DVBT Network Provider" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="tunerdevice" name="7162 BDA DVBT Tuner0" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="capture" name="7162 BDA Digital Capture0" checkdevice="true"/>
</filters>
<connections>
<connection sourcefilter="networkprovider" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="tunerdevice" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tunerdevice" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0"/>
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>

<capturecard commercialname="Philips SAA7162 Hybrid Tuner1" capturename="7162 BDA Digital Capture1" devid="ven_1131&amp;dev_7162&amp;subsys_753117de&a mp;rev_01">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="false" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="true"/>
<tv>
<interface cat="capture" video="2" audio="3" mpeg2="1" sectionsandtables="5"/>
<filters>
<filter cat="networkprovider" name="Microsoft DVBT Network Provider" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="tunerdevice" name="7162 BDA DVBT Tuner1" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="capture" name="7162 BDA Digital Capture1" checkdevice="true"/>
</filters>
<connections>
<connection sourcefilter="networkprovider" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="tunerdevice" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tunerdevice" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0"/>
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>

As you can see unlike TVServer which detects 2 BDA Digital, and 2 BDA Analog..
(Where does TVserver use it's definitions from?) MP is only finding the two Digital Cards above. (I need analog S-Video)

Is there anyway i can hack together a definition that adds an analog capture..
(doing a search of the capturedefinitions.xml, i can find some BDA Analog devices)

This for example is a Hybrid card from another maker that's using the same chipset.. (Can i change the names and keep the Analog BDA settings?)

<capturecard commercialname="Pinnacle PCTV 3010iX (Analogue)" capturename="Pinnacle PCTV 310i BDA Analog Capture" devid="ven_1131&amp;dev_7162&amp;subsys_010011bd&a mp;rev_00">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="true" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="false"/>
<tv>
<interface cat="mux" video="" audio="" mpeg2="0"/>
<filters>
<filter cat="tvtuner" name="Pinnacle PCTV 3010iX BDA Analog TV Tuner" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="tvaudio" name="Pinnacle PCTV 3010iX BDA Analog TV Audio" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="crossbar" name="Pinnacle PCTV 3010iX BDA Analog Xbar" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="capture" name="Pinnacle PCTV 3010iX BDA Analog Capture" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="videncoder" name="%videoencoder%" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="audencoder" name="%audioencoder%" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="mux" name="%mpegmux%" checkdevice="false"/>
</filters>
<connections>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%tvtuner%"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="tvaudio" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tvaudio" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%audiotuner%"/>
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="1"/>
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="videncoder" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="2" sinkfilter="audencoder" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="videncoder" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="audencoder" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux" sinkpin="1"/>
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>




Is it possible to manully hack something together to get a Analog detected?
Iv'e tried various things without any luck.

Thanks for any help on the subject

[aidbish]

Freak.
If you can wait till friday evening (at a remote mine site in QLD at the moment), i will send you my capturecarddefinitions file, as i use the same card and have it running with digital and analog wiith no problems. fm radio working to

Aidbish

[Freak]

I would be willing to kiss you if you can do that for me....
Hmmmm, okay maybe not kiss, how about a beer....

Yeah any help would be much appreciated...

Every time i manually hack the file, MP doesn't recognize any cards.

I look forward to your help...

Cheers,

[aidbish]

Th beer would be just fine.
any probs with it just let me know, this is with the latest drivers from the dntv website.

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
- <capturecards>
- <capturecard commercialname="DNTV Live! DualHybrid PCIe S2 DVB-T Tuner 1" capturename="7162 BDA Digital Capture0" devid="ven_1131&dev_7162&subsys_753117DE&rev_01">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="false" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="true" />
- <tv>
<interface cat="capture" video="2" audio="3" mpeg2="1" sectionsandtables="5" />
- <filters>
<filter cat="networkprovider" name="Microsoft DVBT Network Provider" checkdevice="false" />
<filter cat="tunerdevice" name="7162 BDA DVBT Tuner0" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="capture" name="7162 BDA Digital Capture0" checkdevice="true" />
</filters>
- <connections>
<connection sourcefilter="networkprovider" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="tunerdevice" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="tunerdevice" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0" />
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>
- <capturecard commercialname="DNTV Live! DualHybrid PCIe S2 DVB-T Tuner 2" capturename="7162 BDA Digital Capture1" devid="ven_1131&dev_7162&subsys_753117DE&rev_01">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="false" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="true" />
- <tv>
<interface cat="capture" video="2" audio="3" mpeg2="1" sectionsandtables="5" />
- <filters>
<filter cat="networkprovider" name="Microsoft DVBT Network Provider" checkdevice="false" />
<filter cat="tunerdevice" name="7162 BDA DVBT Tuner1" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="capture" name="7162 BDA Digital Capture1" checkdevice="true" />
</filters>
- <connections>
<connection sourcefilter="networkprovider" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="tunerdevice" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="tunerdevice" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0" />
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>
- <capturecard commercialname="DNTV Live! DualHybrid PCIe S2 Analogue Tuner 1" capturename="7162 BDA Analog Capture0" devid="ven_1131&dev_7162&subsys_753117DE&rev_01">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="true" mpeg2="true" mce="true" sw="false" bda="false" />
- <tv>
<interface cat="mux" video="" audio="" mpeg2="0" />
- <filters>
<filter cat="tvtuner" name="7162 BDA Analog Tv Tuner0" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="tvaudio" name="7162 BDA Analog TV Audio0" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="crossbar" name="7162 BDA Analog Xbar0" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="capture" name="7162 BDA Analog Capture0" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="videncoder" name="%videoencoder%" checkdevice="false" />
<filter cat="audencoder" name="%audioencoder%" checkdevice="false" />
<filter cat="mux" name="%mpegmux%" checkdevice="false" />
</filters>
- <connections>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%tvtuner%" />
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="tvaudio" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="tvaudio" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%audiotuner%" />
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="1" />
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="videncoder" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="2" sinkfilter="audencoder" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="videncoder" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="audencoder" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux" sinkpin="1" />
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>
- <capturecard commercialname="DNTV Live! DualHybrid PCIe S2 Analogue Tuner 2" capturename="7162 BDA Analog Capture1" devid="ven_1131&dev_7162&subsys_753117DE&rev_01">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="true" mpeg2="true" mce="true" sw="false" bda="false" />
- <tv>
<interface cat="mux" video="" audio="" mpeg2="0" />
- <filters>
<filter cat="tvtuner" name="7162 BDA Analog Tv Tuner1" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="tvaudio" name="7162 BDA Analog TV Audio1" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="crossbar" name="7162 BDA Analog Xbar1" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="capture" name="7162 BDA Analog Capture1" checkdevice="true" />
<filter cat="videncoder" name="%videoencoder%" checkdevice="false" />
<filter cat="audencoder" name="%audioencoder%" checkdevice="false" />
<filter cat="mux" name="%mpegmux%" checkdevice="false" />
</filters>
- <connections>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%tvtuner%" />
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="tvaudio" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="tvaudio" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%audiotuner%" />
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="1" />
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="videncoder" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="2" sinkfilter="audencoder" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="videncoder" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux" sinkpin="0" />
<connection sourcefilter="audencoder" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux" sinkpin="1" />
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>
</capturecards>

[Freak]

Thanks very much... (I have not got it to work as yet)
Is it possible to post your capturecards.xml as well....?

Thanks again, I'm confident i will get it going....
It seems that it doesn't recognize it as a .XML when i save it as one. Grrr....

[Freak]

Is it possible for you to send me both the capturedefinitions.xml and capturecards.xml in maybe a zip file..

It seems when i save your post as an .XML it's not being parsed correctly.

[aidbish]

Freak

As requested, sorry it took so long but only got back home today

Aidbish

[rmeredit]

Hiya - check my reply to your post over at the dvbowners forum.