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Old 2008-04-04, 20:24   #1 (permalink)
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Smile Force PAL refresh rates with ATi

I've had my share of ATi-tickets () - nagging about the flipY problem for 690G/x1250 and forcing PAL resolution for same chipset.

I've now bought a HD3450 - but still can't force PAL HDTV (neither 720p50 or 1080p). I made ATi aware of this and actually got a positive response:
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Future driver updates should include the PAL 50hz. There is no ETA on when it should be available. We do apologize for any inconvenience. Please put in a feature request to the catalyst team prioritize the demand for this feature.

At the moment, you can use third party software such as ATI Tray Tools and PowerStrip to force a 50hz refresh rate.

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ATI strives to continually improve our drivers and software, and we invite you to tell us how.

If you are experiencing a problem with our latest driver release, or if you have suggestions on how to make our drivers better, please take the time to submit your feedback.

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So everybody who wants to be able to force PAL resolution in CCC, even if your EDID does not include it (and everybody who want to support us getting it ) PLEASE --> Continue to the Catalyst Crew Feedback submission pages.
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I'm a little confused.... I can get 50hz in the drop down box for 720p and 25hz for 1080i and have done ever since I bought this x1950 pro last year.

What is the problem with PAL you're getting?
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I don't have that option ...

EDIT: Btw, I'm talking about FORCING 50 Hz. The EDID in my LCD TV does not "allow" 50 Hz. This is a common "thing" (I'd like to call it an error or bug) for many LCD TVs. I have no problem when forcing 50 Hz with nVidia.

I did not get this option with my X1250 or HD 3450 - not tried my 9600, but from ATi's statement this is now "confirmed".

I'll alter the first post so it is more accurate.
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I don't have that option ...

EDIT: Btw, I'm talking about FORCING 50 Hz. The EDID in my LCD TV does not "allow" 50 Hz. This is a common "thing" (I'd like to call it an error or bug) for many LCD TVs. I have no problem when forcing 50 Hz with nVidia.

I did not get this option with my X1250 or HD 3450 - not tried my 9600, but from ATi's statement this is now "confirmed".

I'll alter the first post so it is more accurate.
Oh I see, right yeah I was thinking so long as the EDID had a 50hz you'd see the option... and that's why you don't my TV obviously does.

I wonder if they'd do a forced 24/48/72hz?
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I think you need PowerStrip for that - not sure (first get 50 - then find something else to complain about )
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I think I might have found a solution to this, but I cant find ATi ticket 737-22853 - or a quote, cache or anyting from it. Anybody lese?

Btw: Collection of 50 Hz bug threads
Howto: 50hz Refresh Rates Using Ati Catalyst 6.6 And Greater - DTV Forum Australia
Howto: Enable 720p50 and 1080i25 with ATI Catalyst 6.6
Windows Vista & XP Media Center Support Community
Windows Vista & XP Media Center Support Community
Help...1950Pro HDTV out for Pal 50Hz TV Pana 100A (Australia)???? - Rage3D Discussion Area
A bit here: ATI Radeon HD 2X00 (2400,2600,2900) series owners thread - Page 159 - AVS Forum
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OK, found the "problem" I think/hope. The "CVRULE_ENABLEPALTIMINGSUPPORT" is not found in registry with 8.3 drivers.
Could ppl using other drivers see if they have this?

Instructions:
  1. DL and run attached file
  2. Start -> run -> regedit (or use your favorite reg.ed.app)
  3. Brose to where DL app says drivers are (KKEY-LOCAL ->)
  4. Browse and see if you can find CVRULE_ENABLEPALTIMINGSUPPORT
  5. Report back. Include driver ver. and graphiccard



EDIT:
Just by creating DWORD "CVRULE_ENABLEPALTIMINGSUPPORT" and setting HEX=1, I got some PAL HDTV modes (720p50 and 1080i25) - but no 1080p50

Like others have said in threads above,
ATi is not PAL friendly ...
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