Vista SP1 Upgrade - Page 3

Paranoid Delusion · 2008-03-27, 10:59

Quote:

I tell everyone to make backups... but making them myself ? Nooo sir... I don't need to !

hehe, been there.

Hope everything fine now, and get some sleep.

Gixxer · 2008-03-27, 11:08

some sp1 experience here also...

i install sp1 and first thing to notice was that network transfer between LAN computers was a bit faster, nothing to go...

but it did improve.

now comes the bad side, since i have sp1 i get constant (no response) in explorer windows when trying to do several things at the same time. i need to wait a couple of seconds (up to 20 some times) till explorer is available again.

anyone experiecing this? probably i will do a fresh install and SP1, if it continues then no SP1

chemelli · 2008-03-27, 11:13

all those problems unfortunatly can be solved using a dvd with SP1 already applied

Simone

Furetto · 2008-03-31, 17:16

One week later... and about 10 reinstalls later

I got my hands on a DVD with SP1 integrated, which is compatible with the license I have for Vista Business. I tried in total for 3 or 4 times with this version, I don't manage to get anything out of my FloppyDTV. Even The FireDTV Viewer cannot see my channels.

Whereas if I install with my non-SP1 DVD, I get them without any issue. In both cases I did a normal install and then simply installed the FireDTV drivers. I am starting to wonder if on this particular release of Vista Business SP1 the support for BDA might be missing... I did not find specific indications to this, but some comments on a different forum about BDA support not being present in Windows server 2008 triggered this thought.

I am currently finishing this install of MP, with TV-server of about 20 days ago. As soon as I am satisfied I will make an image of my system-disc and then start experimenting with more recent TV-server-SVNs as well as SP1.

chemelli · 2008-03-31, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furetto

I got my hands on a DVD with SP1 integrated, which is compatible with the license I have for Vista Business. I tried in total for 3 or 4 times with this version, I don't manage to get anything out of my FloppyDTV. Even The FireDTV Viewer cannot see my channels.

I'm on a Vista installed with a SP1 integrated dvd and my FloppyDVB-S2 works like a charm.

Simone

SpudR · 2008-03-31, 23:57

There is a solution to all our woes:
It's called format and reinstall XP pro

Paranoid Delusion · 2008-04-01, 00:40

SP1 covers every version of vista, so should supply the same updates, is it a case of if you do not have it hard luck.

Thats the difference i found with xp home and xp pro, why i choose ultimate over any other option, thinking nothing can go wrong and possibly the most supported version, doh

We now also have a quad core pc in the house, supplied with Vista Home Premuim (Wife, some people should not be allowed in shops

), sounds Wizzy but actually slower at transcoding than mine, just have to leave her to it, be on the safe side.

Marcusb · 2008-04-01, 02:50

lol, I went Vista last week on my new HTPC.
I don't really see any improvements on it over XP but I do notice quite a few things where I prefer XP.

I installed SP1 pretty much straight after the install, so haven't seen any places where SP1 caused issues, but then again, I may just think it's a Vista issue, since I never really used it without SP1.

Overall I am greatly underwhelmed by Vista.

and-81 · 2008-04-01, 03:08

Marcusb:

That was my impression too ... I remember thinking: "Wow, what's all the fuss about, this is just XP with some eye candy"

I know that there are some big improvements under the hood, but it just feels like XP with lipstick on, especially when you poke around a bit and find all the old XP dialogs in there.

If it's not reliable then it doesn't matter how good the improvements under the hood are... I don't get the advantage if it doesn't work.

All I know is my own experience ... I've had to reinstall Vista 3 times in a short period. My XP Pro SP2 + Updates 24/7 HTPC is very reliable now, so I'm not going to risk ruining that by moving to Vista.

I'm still not 100% sure if Vista will take over from XP or if it's just the next Windows Millennium Edition... But my gut says that given time Vista will become stable enough to take over the reigns... It's just not there yet (still).

Cheers,

Lotsofjazz · 2008-04-01, 08:28

On my HTPC Vista runs a lot better then XP, I can use EVR, Smoother video, DirectX10 seems to work a lot better with the onboard X1250, hardware accelleration for Mpeg2 works now, ATI AVIVO now actually working. I am sure there is more, but overall my HTPC performs better now then with XP.

lots

2008-04-01, 00:40	#27 (permalink)
Paranoid Delusion Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cheshire UK Posts: 5,932 Thanks: 106 Thanked 179 Times in 161 Posts Country: My System	SP1 covers every version of vista, so should supply the same updates, is it a case of if you do not have it hard luck. Thats the difference i found with xp home and xp pro, why i choose ultimate over any other option, thinking nothing can go wrong and possibly the most supported version, doh We now also have a quad core pc in the house, supplied with Vista Home Premuim (Wife, some people should not be allowed in shops ), sounds Wizzy but actually slower at transcoding than mine, just have to leave her to it, be on the safe side. __________________ Ray\PD Check your codecs are fine with Filmerit. XP\Vista known issues FOR FULL SUPPORT PLEASE GIVE USER SPECIFICATIONS AND RELEVANT LOG's as per HERE

2008-04-01, 03:08	#29 (permalink)
and-81 Portal Developer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Melbourne Age: 27 Posts: 2,248 Thanks: 30 Thanked 142 Times in 88 Posts Country: My System	Marcusb: That was my impression too ... I remember thinking: "Wow, what's all the fuss about, this is just XP with some eye candy" I know that there are some big improvements under the hood, but it just feels like XP with lipstick on, especially when you poke around a bit and find all the old XP dialogs in there. If it's not reliable then it doesn't matter how good the improvements under the hood are... I don't get the advantage if it doesn't work. All I know is my own experience ... I've had to reinstall Vista 3 times in a short period. My XP Pro SP2 + Updates 24/7 HTPC is very reliable now, so I'm not going to risk ruining that by moving to Vista. I'm still not 100% sure if Vista will take over from XP or if it's just the next Windows Millennium Edition... But my gut says that given time Vista will become stable enough to take over the reigns... It's just not there yet (still). Cheers, __________________ - Aaron. IR Server Suite - Version 1.0.4.1 MCE Replacement Plugin - Version 1.0.4.1 You don't need the MCE Replacement Driver

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2008-03-27, 11:08	#22 (permalink)
Gixxer Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 24 Posts: 440 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Country: My System	some sp1 experience here also... i install sp1 and first thing to notice was that network transfer between LAN computers was a bit faster, nothing to go... but it did improve. now comes the bad side, since i have sp1 i get constant (no response) in explorer windows when trying to do several things at the same time. i need to wait a couple of seconds (up to 20 some times) till explorer is available again. anyone experiecing this? probably i will do a fresh install and SP1, if it continues then no SP1

2008-03-27, 11:13	#23 (permalink)
chemelli Portal Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy - Padova Age: 34 Posts: 1,158 Thanks: 60 Thanked 54 Times in 43 Posts Country: My System	all those problems unfortunatly can be solved using a dvd with SP1 already applied Simone

2008-03-31, 17:16	#24 (permalink)
Furetto MP Donator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brussels Age: 35 Posts: 298 Thanks: 14 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Country: My System	One week later... and about 10 reinstalls later I got my hands on a DVD with SP1 integrated, which is compatible with the license I have for Vista Business. I tried in total for 3 or 4 times with this version, I don't manage to get anything out of my FloppyDTV. Even The FireDTV Viewer cannot see my channels. Whereas if I install with my non-SP1 DVD, I get them without any issue. In both cases I did a normal install and then simply installed the FireDTV drivers. I am starting to wonder if on this particular release of Vista Business SP1 the support for BDA might be missing... I did not find specific indications to this, but some comments on a different forum about BDA support not being present in Windows server 2008 triggered this thought. I am currently finishing this install of MP, with TV-server of about 20 days ago. As soon as I am satisfied I will make an image of my system-disc and then start experimenting with more recent TV-server-SVNs as well as SP1.

2008-03-31, 23:57	#26 (permalink)
SpudR Portal Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 324 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Country: My System	There is a solution to all our woes: It's called format and reinstall XP pro

2008-04-01, 02:50	#28 (permalink)
Marcusb Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,909 Thanks: 61 Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts Country: My System	lol, I went Vista last week on my new HTPC. I don't really see any improvements on it over XP but I do notice quite a few things where I prefer XP. I installed SP1 pretty much straight after the install, so haven't seen any places where SP1 caused issues, but then again, I may just think it's a Vista issue, since I never really used it without SP1. Overall I am greatly underwhelmed by Vista.

2008-04-01, 08:28	#30 (permalink)
Lotsofjazz Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 114 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts My System	On my HTPC Vista runs a lot better then XP, I can use EVR, Smoother video, DirectX10 seems to work a lot better with the onboard X1250, hardware accelleration for Mpeg2 works now, ATI AVIVO now actually working. I am sure there is more, but overall my HTPC performs better now then with XP. lots