Resume from Stand By

AberDino · 2006-03-05, 17:28

Area: Media Portal Program
MediaPortal Version: 0.2.0.0 RC2 (2006-03-05)
MediaPortal Skin: BlueTwo
Windows Version: Windows XP (SP2)
.NET CLR Version: 2.0.50727
DirectX Version: 4.09.00.0904 (9.0c)
Audio Codec: NVIDIA Audio Decoder
Video Codec: NVIDIA Video Decoder
CPU Type: AMD Athlon XP 2000+
Memory: 511 MB
Motherboard: MK79G-1394 (AOpen)
TV Card Model: Hauppage Nova-t (TT)
TV Card Type: DVB-t
TV Card Driver: 4.4.10.12
Video Card Model: Radeon 9800 Pro (128 MB)
Video Card Driver: 8.191.0.0
Video Card Resolution: 1024x576
Video Render Type: VMR9
Audio Card Model: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Audio Card Driver: 6.14.462.0
Synopsis::

I recently posted this message, but so far nobody has responded to it. With the latest CVS, resuming from stand by still breaks 'my tv' (MP hangs). I've done a few more tests since.

First I tried going into stand by and resuming with MCE2K5 itself, from the home menu with the TV stopped. The DVB-t card still works properly after the system resumes, which confirms the system itself is working fine, and that the problem is related to MP.

Then I went back to MP and used the 'devcon' utility to restart the dvb-t card after resuming, but before firing up MP's 'my tv' module. This made no difference, MP still hangs after selecting 'my tv'.

However, if I restart MP after the system has resumed, 'my tv' works fine again. I don't think a restart of MP should be required and this is also a bit impractical, as I've got a dedicated media PC with just the MCE remote (can't restart MP only from menu), and in the future I would like to start using powerscheduler to wake up the system for recordings.

I would appreciate it if somebody else could try the same scenario and report back. If it is a general bug, the dev team will hopefully look into it, as it would be extremely useful to have this working properly.

I can do more testing and/or post log files if required.

Bavarian · 2006-03-05, 18:02

Hi AberDino,

I use the PowerScheduler from MP here with Hibernation and it working without problems.
You wrote that you plan to use PowerScheduler -> How you are going in stand by? If you are not using the function from PowerScheduler then MP will crash after the wake up.

Bavarian

AberDino · 2006-03-05, 18:19

Hi Bavarian,

I put the PC into stand by (no hibernate) from MP's home menu (no modules active) using the power button on my MCE remote. I also wake up the PC using this button. From what you are saying this is not supported within MP?

At the moment I haven't got PowerScheduler active, but I will try as you suggest. I have noticed that the PowerScheduler configuration options have changed quite a bit since I last had a look at it. Would you mind posting your PowerScheduler configuration settings?

I've got a task running in the morning that copies the latest tvguide.xml from another PC to the media PC, and then imports into MP. I'm not using any power management options at the moment so this all works fine. On the task's properties I can choose to wake up the PC to run this task. Should that still work fine in combination with PowerScheduler? I presume PowerScheduler will take care of putting the PC into stand by again after the import?

Bavarian · 2006-03-05, 19:25

Hi AberDino!

You are right, MP will handle the shut down and also wake up MP automaticly when you have TV Broadcasts to record.

Here are my Config:

Bavarian

AberDino · 2006-03-05, 19:54

Bavarian,

Thanks a lot for the info. One last question... what does the 'Forced shutdown' option do?

wewe · 2006-03-05, 20:44

hi AberDino,

following my experience "resume from standby" is a very critical thing for MP. There was a time when it didn't work at all. MP did hang completely. Then it worked a while very good.

With the latest CVS'ses it is so so - at least for my configuration. Sometimes MP wakes up in home screen and works, sometimes it wakes up with black screen with sound on, sometimes it is in home screen and very very slow - impossible to use.

I would say it is an uncontrolled situation currently. It wakes up in some state ... and it changes from CVS to CVS.

I would suggest to wait until the 0.2 release (announced for 18th march). Then it should have at least a reproducable condition so that you can rely on something.

- don't confuse 'powerscheduler' (which works good) with the ability to standby and resume -

thanks&regards
WeWe

Bavarian · 2006-03-06, 09:33

Hi AberDino,

the force shutdown options tells Windows not to get stoppped by running programms, this means it will shut down anyhow. I use this option on my HTPC, because some drivers otherwise stopping shut down process.

Bavarian

daveyboy · 2006-03-06, 13:21

I've also had problems with MyTV and resuming from hibernation in the past. My current solution is to use a little program calls StartOnWake. This detects when the computer wakes up then runs a batch file.

At the moment, this batch file contains a single command, which restarts the HTPC. That way I know that everytime the PC gets turned on it is in a clean state. Takes a lot longer to turn on than just resuming from hibernation, but it is finally working for me. 2 tuner cards both working - the WAF is way up!

BTW, I also use PowerScheduler, with setting almost identical to those posted by Bavarian.

AberDino · 2006-03-06, 21:48

Thank you all for your feedback, very useful indeed. I've now started using PowerScheduler and so far so good! The PC goes into stand by after the set time, I can wake it up with the remote, and all is still working fine after the system resumes. Thanks again for your help.

AberDino · 2006-03-09, 10:26

I spoke to soon... PowerScheduler does not wake up my PC for scheduled recordings. The time for the system to resume before the recording starts is currently set to 5 minutes, with the actual recording to start 2 minutes before the scheduled time in the EPG. From the 'mediaportal.log' file it is clear that there is no activity at all when the recording should take place (i.e. the system remains in stand by mode). How can I troubleshoot this?

2006-03-05, 17:28	#1 (permalink)
AberDino Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kincardineshire Posts: 108 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country: My System	Resume from Stand By Area: Media Portal Program MediaPortal Version: 0.2.0.0 RC2 (2006-03-05) MediaPortal Skin: BlueTwo Windows Version: Windows XP (SP2) .NET CLR Version: 2.0.50727 DirectX Version: 4.09.00.0904 (9.0c) Audio Codec: NVIDIA Audio Decoder Video Codec: NVIDIA Video Decoder CPU Type: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Memory: 511 MB Motherboard: MK79G-1394 (AOpen) TV Card Model: Hauppage Nova-t (TT) TV Card Type: DVB-t TV Card Driver: 4.4.10.12 Video Card Model: Radeon 9800 Pro (128 MB) Video Card Driver: 8.191.0.0 Video Card Resolution: 1024x576 Video Render Type: VMR9 Audio Card Model: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Audio Card Driver: 6.14.462.0 Synopsis:: I recently posted this message, but so far nobody has responded to it. With the latest CVS, resuming from stand by still breaks 'my tv' (MP hangs). I've done a few more tests since. First I tried going into stand by and resuming with MCE2K5 itself, from the home menu with the TV stopped. The DVB-t card still works properly after the system resumes, which confirms the system itself is working fine, and that the problem is related to MP. Then I went back to MP and used the 'devcon' utility to restart the dvb-t card after resuming, but before firing up MP's 'my tv' module. This made no difference, MP still hangs after selecting 'my tv'. However, if I restart MP after the system has resumed, 'my tv' works fine again. I don't think a restart of MP should be required and this is also a bit impractical, as I've got a dedicated media PC with just the MCE remote (can't restart MP only from menu), and in the future I would like to start using powerscheduler to wake up the system for recordings. I would appreciate it if somebody else could try the same scenario and report back. If it is a general bug, the dev team will hopefully look into it, as it would be extremely useful to have this working properly. I can do more testing and/or post log files if required.

2006-03-05, 20:44	#6 (permalink)
wewe Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Herxheim Age: 47 Posts: 353 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country:	hi AberDino, following my experience "resume from standby" is a very critical thing for MP. There was a time when it didn't work at all. MP did hang completely. Then it worked a while very good. With the latest CVS'ses it is so so - at least for my configuration. Sometimes MP wakes up in home screen and works, sometimes it wakes up with black screen with sound on, sometimes it is in home screen and very very slow - impossible to use. I would say it is an uncontrolled situation currently. It wakes up in some state ... and it changes from CVS to CVS. I would suggest to wait until the 0.2 release (announced for 18th march). Then it should have at least a reproducable condition so that you can rely on something. - don't confuse 'powerscheduler' (which works good) with the ability to standby and resume - thanks&regards WeWe __________________ Hard: ASUS K8M-VX, Sempron 3100+, MSI NX6200AX-TD256, Spinpoint SP2004C, WinTV PVR 150, MCE Remote + Keyboard / Soft: Win XP MCE, MP 0.2.1.0

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2006-03-05, 18:02	#2 (permalink)
Bavarian Portal Developer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany, Bayern Age: 42 Posts: 497 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts Country:	Hi AberDino, I use the PowerScheduler from MP here with Hibernation and it working without problems. You wrote that you plan to use PowerScheduler -> How you are going in stand by? If you are not using the function from PowerScheduler then MP will crash after the wake up. Bavarian

2006-03-05, 18:19	#3 (permalink)
AberDino Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kincardineshire Posts: 108 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country: My System	Hi Bavarian, I put the PC into stand by (no hibernate) from MP's home menu (no modules active) using the power button on my MCE remote. I also wake up the PC using this button. From what you are saying this is not supported within MP? At the moment I haven't got PowerScheduler active, but I will try as you suggest. I have noticed that the PowerScheduler configuration options have changed quite a bit since I last had a look at it. Would you mind posting your PowerScheduler configuration settings? I've got a task running in the morning that copies the latest tvguide.xml from another PC to the media PC, and then imports into MP. I'm not using any power management options at the moment so this all works fine. On the task's properties I can choose to wake up the PC to run this task. Should that still work fine in combination with PowerScheduler? I presume PowerScheduler will take care of putting the PC into stand by again after the import?

2006-03-05, 19:25	#4 (permalink)
Bavarian Portal Developer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany, Bayern Age: 42 Posts: 497 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts Country:	Hi AberDino! You are right, MP will handle the shut down and also wake up MP automaticly when you have TV Broadcasts to record. Here are my Config: Bavarian

2006-03-05, 19:54	#5 (permalink)
AberDino Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kincardineshire Posts: 108 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country: My System	Bavarian, Thanks a lot for the info. One last question... what does the 'Forced shutdown' option do?

2006-03-06, 09:33	#7 (permalink)
Bavarian Portal Developer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany, Bayern Age: 42 Posts: 497 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts Country:	Hi AberDino, the force shutdown options tells Windows not to get stoppped by running programms, this means it will shut down anyhow. I use this option on my HTPC, because some drivers otherwise stopping shut down process. Bavarian

2006-03-06, 13:21	#8 (permalink)
daveyboy Portal Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Reading, England Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've also had problems with MyTV and resuming from hibernation in the past. My current solution is to use a little program calls StartOnWake. This detects when the computer wakes up then runs a batch file. At the moment, this batch file contains a single command, which restarts the HTPC. That way I know that everytime the PC gets turned on it is in a clean state. Takes a lot longer to turn on than just resuming from hibernation, but it is finally working for me. 2 tuner cards both working - the WAF is way up! BTW, I also use PowerScheduler, with setting almost identical to those posted by Bavarian.

2006-03-06, 21:48	#9 (permalink)
AberDino Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kincardineshire Posts: 108 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country: My System	Thank you all for your feedback, very useful indeed. I've now started using PowerScheduler and so far so good! The PC goes into stand by after the set time, I can wake it up with the remote, and all is still working fine after the system resumes. Thanks again for your help.

2006-03-09, 10:26	#10 (permalink)
AberDino Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kincardineshire Posts: 108 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country: My System	I spoke to soon... PowerScheduler does not wake up my PC for scheduled recordings. The time for the system to resume before the recording starts is currently set to 5 minutes, with the actual recording to start 2 minutes before the scheduled time in the EPG. From the 'mediaportal.log' file it is clear that there is no activity at all when the recording should take place (i.e. the system remains in stand by mode). How can I troubleshoot this?