plugin for the website wwitv.com? - Page 4

Vulture · 2006-10-21, 10:43

I uploaded a new version that adds the use of Favorites.
The download page should turn to version 0.3 soon...

I also added a main menu logo (just for the default and wide skin).

Just for your information

keith2045 · 2006-10-21, 20:00

Support for http://www.viewtv.co.uk/ would be awesome!

Havent tried the plugin yet, but will soon

wertzui · 2006-10-24, 08:48

i must say, that sometimes i have the problem, that, when i watch a stream, it goes into full-screen and then i cant make it go to the gui again, all i can do is watch it in fullscreen or quit mediaportal.

but apart from that its a great plugin

juan pablo · 2006-10-24, 12:19

1) I dont have any problems with my use of the plugin.

2) The reason some streams can be paused / fast forwarded / rewound / etc is due to the method via which the stream is served. In basic terms its the technology used by each given stream rather than anything relating to this plugin. Thus nothing can be done about it from the plugin perspective.

3) ViewTv looks like a great idea in general. THerefore i reckon this would be a massive boost to MediaPortal if it were included in this plugin. These are proffessional channels in high quality. The following page:

http://www.viewtv.co.uk/sitemap/

Isnt actually a sitemap but rather a full list of all channels currently available! Thus it should be really easy to incorporate this data into the Plugin using a simple bit of screen scraping. Hopefully the developer should therefore be able to add these channels with relatively few problems.

juan pablo · 2006-10-24, 12:38

Vulture:

I just checked out ViewTv.co.uk further and realised that once you try to view a channel it takes you to a second page. Here the selected station is actually played via some cunning use of flash and javascript meaning the stream location is never revealed even in the source code for the page.

However using the ninja like use of my firewall logs i have been able to determine the format used for all channel streams, logos and probably schedules (not checked this bit yet).

This really would be a great addition to the plugin, so please contact me asap and ill give you the details of the formatting used for these channels.

Hope to hear from you soon so we can get this great addition working!!!

Vulture · 2006-10-25, 18:07

Juan Pablo,

I'm of course intererested in your findings.
I'm not sure if my plugin will be a strange collection of local (for one country only) tv-sites, but it wouldn't be hard to expand the plugin or make a similar one for another website.
If only the search algorithms on the webpage are different, it shouldn't be that hard. But if the way of collecting the link-data is much different from the wwitv.com website, it's perhaps better to create a new plugin...
If you have concrete information on extracting the url's to the streams, we're halfway....

juan pablo · 2006-10-25, 18:18

Vulture,

I think this website would work perfectly alonside the wwwitv.com element and within the same plugin. IT would probably be best to rename it something like 'myIPTV'.

ViewTv.co.uk is attempting to recreat Satellite TV only via the internet. Proffessional broadcasters stream or relay their channels via this website. The website / service has a given number of available channels rangin from channel 100 upto something like channel 500.

The channel numbers are then suubdivided into genres eg:

100-199 = Sport
200-299 = Sales
300-500 = movies

etc etc.

Now the company actually plans to launch a standalone box to stream these channels over the web much like freeview or satellite and thus will be a very proffessional solution and step forward for IPTV. So if we can get this working in MP it will make MP by far the most powerful HTPC!!!!

So this is how it works. If you go to: www.ViewTv.co.uk you can see a flash animated page with all the channels. Click one and it takes you to a flash player with the given channel played via a flash based version of WinMedia Player and is thus compatible with MP.

The only problem is getting direct access to the streams to be included in your plugin. However ive managed to collect and test this info via my firewall logs. So we now have direct access to the streams.

So how do we get this info into your plugin?

Well i envisage that when a user launches your plugin they are presented with 3 buttons:

1) wwITV.com - Your plugin as it currently stands eg scraped from wwitv.com
2) ViewTv - See below
3) Favourites - A list of manually added user stations.

Ok so the ViewTv option will do a screen scrape from http://www.viewtv.co.uk/sitemap/ (html links page) . This will display all currently active channels by number and thus genre, in one list. Or with a little work just showing stations within a given genre.

Then when a user selects a station they would be taken to the ViewTv stations flash page on their website which plays the streams (asx file) in a neat flash/wmp player. Now of course we dont want this to happen because we want to remain within MP. So using some regular expressions we simply get the channel number from the screenscrape / id given in the channel link.

So for example a user click to view channel 450, we build our own link direct to the stream for channel 450, and thus can display the channel within the plugin directly and via Windows Media Player.

I also have the locations for the channel logos as well as the channel listings which are represented as little flash movies.

Hope this explains things a little?

Please take a look at the ViewTv.co.uk website, and IM me if you want to work together on this.

I hope we can make this happen as it will truly make MP the most advanced HTPC around, and will certainly be something to impress your mates with. lol

EMKO · 2006-10-25, 20:35

wow thats a great idea Juan pablo

another good thing to have is to be able to make new section your self so if you want to change it to something like this

1) wwITV.com - Your plugin as it currently stands eg scraped from wwitv.com
2) ViewTv - See below

3) News - collection of news like CNN or some there ones

3) Favourites - A list of manually added user stations.

so you can make a new called News and manually put in some streams

diaboluz · 2006-10-26, 21:30

You have a small bug in the plugin, every time a stream is stoppet and you see the chan list again, it autoamticly starts the first stream of the selected country as a smal window in the downer left corner, but else the widescreen is working super now

Thank you for that...

juan pablo · 2006-10-28, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMKO

wow thats a great idea Juan pablo

another good thing to have is to be able to make new section your self so if you want to change it to something like this

1) wwITV.com - Your plugin as it currently stands eg scraped from wwitv.com
2) ViewTv - See below

3) News - collection of news like CNN or some there ones

3) Favourites - A list of manually added user stations.

so you can make a new called News and manually put in some streams

Emko. Adding News section would be beyond the bounds of this plugin to be honest and not really worth the extra work. This is especially true when you consider that freeTv has a whole range of channels dedicated to news, hence you would just browse these from the news section of the listings anyway.

Vulture are you still out there pal? Please get in touch.

2006-10-25, 18:18	#37 (permalink)
juan pablo Portal Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country:	Vulture, I think this website would work perfectly alonside the wwwitv.com element and within the same plugin. IT would probably be best to rename it something like 'myIPTV'. ViewTv.co.uk is attempting to recreat Satellite TV only via the internet. Proffessional broadcasters stream or relay their channels via this website. The website / service has a given number of available channels rangin from channel 100 upto something like channel 500. The channel numbers are then suubdivided into genres eg: 100-199 = Sport 200-299 = Sales 300-500 = movies etc etc. Now the company actually plans to launch a standalone box to stream these channels over the web much like freeview or satellite and thus will be a very proffessional solution and step forward for IPTV. So if we can get this working in MP it will make MP by far the most powerful HTPC!!!! So this is how it works. If you go to: www.ViewTv.co.uk you can see a flash animated page with all the channels. Click one and it takes you to a flash player with the given channel played via a flash based version of WinMedia Player and is thus compatible with MP. The only problem is getting direct access to the streams to be included in your plugin. However ive managed to collect and test this info via my firewall logs. So we now have direct access to the streams. So how do we get this info into your plugin? Well i envisage that when a user launches your plugin they are presented with 3 buttons: 1) wwITV.com - Your plugin as it currently stands eg scraped from wwitv.com 2) ViewTv - See below 3) Favourites - A list of manually added user stations. Ok so the ViewTv option will do a screen scrape from http://www.viewtv.co.uk/sitemap/ (html links page) . This will display all currently active channels by number and thus genre, in one list. Or with a little work just showing stations within a given genre. Then when a user selects a station they would be taken to the ViewTv stations flash page on their website which plays the streams (asx file) in a neat flash/wmp player. Now of course we dont want this to happen because we want to remain within MP. So using some regular expressions we simply get the channel number from the screenscrape / id given in the channel link. So for example a user click to view channel 450, we build our own link direct to the stream for channel 450, and thus can display the channel within the plugin directly and via Windows Media Player. I also have the locations for the channel logos as well as the channel listings which are represented as little flash movies. Hope this explains things a little? Please take a look at the ViewTv.co.uk website, and IM me if you want to work together on this. I hope we can make this happen as it will truly make MP the most advanced HTPC around, and will certainly be something to impress your mates with. lol Last edited by juan pablo; 2006-10-25 at 18:28.

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2006-10-21, 10:43	#31 (permalink)
Vulture Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nieuwendijk (NB) Age: 37 Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country:	I uploaded a new version that adds the use of Favorites. The download page should turn to version 0.3 soon... I also added a main menu logo (just for the default and wide skin). Just for your information

2006-10-21, 20:00	#32 (permalink)
keith2045 Portal Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Age: 24 Posts: 195 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country: My System	Support for http://www.viewtv.co.uk/ would be awesome! Havent tried the plugin yet, but will soon

2006-10-24, 08:48	#33 (permalink)
wertzui Retired Team Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 314 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	i must say, that sometimes i have the problem, that, when i watch a stream, it goes into full-screen and then i cant make it go to the gui again, all i can do is watch it in fullscreen or quit mediaportal. but apart from that its a great plugin

2006-10-24, 12:19	#34 (permalink)
juan pablo Portal Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country:	1) I dont have any problems with my use of the plugin. 2) The reason some streams can be paused / fast forwarded / rewound / etc is due to the method via which the stream is served. In basic terms its the technology used by each given stream rather than anything relating to this plugin. Thus nothing can be done about it from the plugin perspective. 3) ViewTv looks like a great idea in general. THerefore i reckon this would be a massive boost to MediaPortal if it were included in this plugin. These are proffessional channels in high quality. The following page: http://www.viewtv.co.uk/sitemap/ Isnt actually a sitemap but rather a full list of all channels currently available! Thus it should be really easy to incorporate this data into the Plugin using a simple bit of screen scraping. Hopefully the developer should therefore be able to add these channels with relatively few problems.

2006-10-24, 12:38	#35 (permalink)
juan pablo Portal Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Country:	Vulture: I just checked out ViewTv.co.uk further and realised that once you try to view a channel it takes you to a second page. Here the selected station is actually played via some cunning use of flash and javascript meaning the stream location is never revealed even in the source code for the page. However using the ninja like use of my firewall logs i have been able to determine the format used for all channel streams, logos and probably schedules (not checked this bit yet). This really would be a great addition to the plugin, so please contact me asap and ill give you the details of the formatting used for these channels. Hope to hear from you soon so we can get this great addition working!!!

2006-10-25, 18:07	#36 (permalink)
Vulture Portal Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nieuwendijk (NB) Age: 37 Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Country:	Juan Pablo, I'm of course intererested in your findings. I'm not sure if my plugin will be a strange collection of local (for one country only) tv-sites, but it wouldn't be hard to expand the plugin or make a similar one for another website. If only the search algorithms on the webpage are different, it shouldn't be that hard. But if the way of collecting the link-data is much different from the wwitv.com website, it's perhaps better to create a new plugin... If you have concrete information on extracting the url's to the streams, we're halfway....

2006-10-25, 20:35	#38 (permalink)
EMKO Portal Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 175 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wow thats a great idea Juan pablo another good thing to have is to be able to make new section your self so if you want to change it to something like this 1) wwITV.com - Your plugin as it currently stands eg scraped from wwitv.com 2) ViewTv - See below 3) News - collection of news like CNN or some there ones 3) Favourites - A list of manually added user stations. so you can make a new called News and manually put in some streams

2006-10-26, 21:30	#39 (permalink)
diaboluz Portal Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 25 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You have a small bug in the plugin, every time a stream is stoppet and you see the chan list again, it autoamticly starts the first stream of the selected country as a smal window in the downer left corner, but else the widescreen is working super now Thank you for that...