i-loop's design - work in progress - 2007-08-10

[cul8er]

Really nice approach! I like it. Exiting to see the rest of the screens.

[infinityloop]

Originally Posted by jaeger

infinityloop, have you though about how the circular menu works when you have selected one of the buttons that aren't on the main axis (for example tv/on off)? Where does the selection move when you press left when ' tv/on off' is selected?

to the central button

i think i have worked out a solution for TV-Server Streams and miniepg. stay tuned.

[Inker]

I agree, very nice design. I especially like the "left-right" "up-down" navigation for the properties.

[infinityloop]

Originally Posted by joystick

- For timeshifting (skip, ffwd, etc) use the ">>, >, <<" Buttons on the remote instead of left, right, up, down.

the idea is good, but i woulndt do that for one simple reason: consistency

if you play a DVD, then the |< and >| buttons are used for skip between chapters. same when you play a *.mkv which contains chapter informations.

so you could only change the behaviour for these buttons in MyTV, which would then lead to confusion because in MyVideos and DVD these buttons wouldnt do the same action.

so it should stay like it is atm:

> ... play
|| ... pause
>> ... FastForward
<< ... FastReverse
>| ... Next Chapter
|< ... Previouse Chapter
-> ... SkipStep forward
<- ... SkipStep backwards

I hope i cleared that up

[joystick]

> ... play
|| ... pause
>> ... FastForward
<< ... FastReverse
>| ... Next Chapter
|< ... Previouse Chapter

I agree, the consiytency should be kept, BUT:
why not
> ....play
|| ... pause
>> ... small step Fwd (FFwd)
<< ... small step Backwd(Fast Back)
>| ... big step fwd ...(next chapter in Vid and DVD)
|< ... big step backwd...(prev. Chapter ")


That way you could use the middle navigator for different purposes.

[infinityloop]

Originally Posted by joystick

I agree, the consiytency should be kept, BUT:
>> ... small step Fwd (next chapter in Vid and DVD)
<< ... small step Backwd(prev. Chapter ")
>| ... big step fwd ...
|< ... big step backwd...

have you actualy tried the skipsteps?
as far as i know, TVCentral is not useing "skip steps" as we do.

the skipstep is not only "one" fixed amount of time as your "small / big" skipstep makes it look like.

i.e. press "right" on your remote/keyboard once means "+15sec"
press "right" 2 times and you go forward +30sec
press "right" 5 times and you go forward 5minutes

just watch the right part of your timeline when you press the <- -> keys on remote/keyboard to see the "skipstep time" which will be used once you stop pressing the direction key(s).

so imo. it is not wise to change the behaviour.

[joystick]

have you actualy tried the skipsteps?
as far as i know, TVCentral is not useing "skip steps" as we do.

the skipstep is not only "one" fixed amount of time as your "small / big" skipstep makes it look like.

i.e. press "right" on your remote/keyboard once means "+15sec"
press "right" 2 times and you go forward +30sec
press "right" 5 times and you go forward 5minutes

Oh yeah, you're totally right.
But still I think skipping by the Remote-arrow keys is more consistent......just because you are doing it in Dvd and Video also.
Nevertheless, I think the users should decide how they want to navigate, and if your way is the preferred way....that's alright with me

cheers
joystick

[infinityloop]

Originally Posted by joystick

Nevertheless, I think the users should decide how they want to navigate,

the mapping of the actions can be changed

not the easiest part in setup, but you can alter it.

[Seidelin]

How about tilting the user interface a bit towards Wellton Ways style?
That is, the numbers can be used as a shortcut, i.e. pressing "3" replaces "right"+"up"+"ok".
"4" would replace "left"+"ok".

http://www.welltonway.com/english/

The menu can still be navigated with arrows if the user prefers. The only problem is that a maximum of 9 or 12 menu points can be adressed this way (but we don't want more choices than that on a single screen anyway).

Regards
Seidelin

[gemx]

Seidelin:
That's a really good idea to improve usability even more