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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 917429" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Hello bc0508</p><p> </p><p>First, big thanks for your help! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" /></p><p>I'm not sure what to think about what I see in your log files... so I'll talk you through what I'm thinking.</p><p> </p><p>I know that Silicondust have implemented a BDA wrapper for the Prime which allows applications like MP to tune clear QAM digital cable channels without too much effort. Thats a technical way of saying that they did everything in their power to make the Prime compatible with existing software. Indeed, MP can already use the Prime for receiving clear QAM digital cable, just like it can with the non-CableCARD HDHomeRun.</p><p>(Note: I don't think either Ceton or Hauppauge have enabled this function.)</p><p> </p><p>So I think the tuners that you saw when you changed to "MediaPortal" in HDHomeRun Config/Setup are from the clear QAM tuner "wrapper" that Silicondust has created. We have to use completely different interface if we want to enable receiving of copy-freely encrypted digital cable.</p><p> </p><p>Now in the past I have logged into somebody elses PC and looked at how the Prime presents itself to the operating system. As I recall (and my memory is getting a little fuzzy here), there were actually six Prime tuners. How does that work? Well I think the first three are from the Silicondust wrapper; the other three are the ones that we need to use for CableCARD tuning.</p><p> </p><p>In the first few pages of the <a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/ceton-cablecard-tv-tuner-with-mediaportal.90663/" target="_blank">Ceton thread</a> we learned that MP's TV Server was not able to see the Ceton tuners on a 64 bit operating system unless the software is running as a native 64 bit application. That is as opposed to running as a 32 bit application using WOW64.</p><p> </p><p>Normally both MP and TV Server run as 32 bit WOW64 applications in order to maintain compatibility with codecs and various other things.</p><p> </p><p>From all of this information, I'm deducing (read: I'm *really* ***really*** hoping!) that the reason I'm not seeing what I expected to see is because you're running a 64 bit version of Windows 7.</p><p> </p><p>Could you please confirm that?</p><p> </p><p>Regardless of whether I'm right or not, I've got another quick test that I'm hoping you can do. Here are the instructions:</p><p>1. Download <strong>both</strong> versions of GraphStudio from --><a href="http://blog.monogram.sk/janos/2009/06/14/monogram-graphstudio-0320/" target="_blank">here</a><--.</p><p>2. Run the 64 bit version (no install required - it is just a standalone exe).</p><p>3. In the top menu click "graph"-->"insert filter...".</p><p>4. Up the top there are two fields. In the first field please select "BDA Source Filters", and in the second field ensure that "All Filters" is selected.</p><p>5. Please take a screenshot of this view.</p><p>6. Change the first field up the top to "UPnP Streaming Devices" and take another screenshot. Don't worry if "UPnP..." isn't in the list - just let me know if it isn't.</p><p>7. Repeat steps 2 to 6 using the 32 bit version of GraphStudio.</p><p>8. Post the 4 screenshots here.</p><p> </p><p>Thanks again for your willingness to help. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>mm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 917429, member: 82144"] Hello bc0508 First, big thanks for your help! (y) I'm not sure what to think about what I see in your log files... so I'll talk you through what I'm thinking. I know that Silicondust have implemented a BDA wrapper for the Prime which allows applications like MP to tune clear QAM digital cable channels without too much effort. Thats a technical way of saying that they did everything in their power to make the Prime compatible with existing software. Indeed, MP can already use the Prime for receiving clear QAM digital cable, just like it can with the non-CableCARD HDHomeRun. (Note: I don't think either Ceton or Hauppauge have enabled this function.) So I think the tuners that you saw when you changed to "MediaPortal" in HDHomeRun Config/Setup are from the clear QAM tuner "wrapper" that Silicondust has created. We have to use completely different interface if we want to enable receiving of copy-freely encrypted digital cable. Now in the past I have logged into somebody elses PC and looked at how the Prime presents itself to the operating system. As I recall (and my memory is getting a little fuzzy here), there were actually six Prime tuners. How does that work? Well I think the first three are from the Silicondust wrapper; the other three are the ones that we need to use for CableCARD tuning. In the first few pages of the [URL='https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/ceton-cablecard-tv-tuner-with-mediaportal.90663/']Ceton thread[/URL] we learned that MP's TV Server was not able to see the Ceton tuners on a 64 bit operating system unless the software is running as a native 64 bit application. That is as opposed to running as a 32 bit application using WOW64. Normally both MP and TV Server run as 32 bit WOW64 applications in order to maintain compatibility with codecs and various other things. From all of this information, I'm deducing (read: I'm *really* ***really*** hoping!) that the reason I'm not seeing what I expected to see is because you're running a 64 bit version of Windows 7. Could you please confirm that? Regardless of whether I'm right or not, I've got another quick test that I'm hoping you can do. Here are the instructions: 1. Download [B]both[/B] versions of GraphStudio from -->[URL='http://blog.monogram.sk/janos/2009/06/14/monogram-graphstudio-0320/']here[/URL]<--. 2. Run the 64 bit version (no install required - it is just a standalone exe). 3. In the top menu click "graph"-->"insert filter...". 4. Up the top there are two fields. In the first field please select "BDA Source Filters", and in the second field ensure that "All Filters" is selected. 5. Please take a screenshot of this view. 6. Change the first field up the top to "UPnP Streaming Devices" and take another screenshot. Don't worry if "UPnP..." isn't in the list - just let me know if it isn't. 7. Repeat steps 2 to 6 using the 32 bit version of GraphStudio. 8. Post the 4 screenshots here. Thanks again for your willingness to help. :) mm [/QUOTE]
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