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<blockquote data-quote="CyberSimian" data-source="post: 1173309" data-attributes="member: 141969"><p>Once upon a time there were only two TV channels in the UK, and the only programme information available was via listings magazines (and you had to buy <em>both</em> listings magazines each week, as neither broadcaster allowed its programme schedules to be published in its competitor's listings magazine <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /> ). We have come a long way since then, but programme listings are still far from perfect (and probably never will be perfect).</p><p></p><p>I previously used Windows Media Center on Vista. That used the Microsoft internet EPG (14 days; repeat flag; original broadcast date; avoidance of duplicate recording). But it was not perfect, with the EPG becoming unavailable for days at a time, and containing incorrect information <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />. Also, although Microsoft updated the EPG with major changes to the channel lineup, they never added the EPGs for the minor channels. (In fairness to Microsoft, this might have been because the minor channels could not be bothered to send the programme info to Microsoft each day.)</p><p></p><p>I now use the broadcast EPG on DVB-T/T2. Although only 7 days, it includes all channels. There is no repeat flag or original broadcast date, so recording series requires a different approach. Depending on the series, I sometimes record all occurrences, and then run a batch script to compare the xml files and delete recordings that are duplicates. But this has to be done with human intervention, since some series have the same programme description for all episodes (typically documentaries and current affairs programmes, rather than drama).</p><p></p><p>I note that you are using satellite. I believe that there is a broadcast EPG for satellite too, but that it is transmitted in the form of a radio channel, so you need to be sure to include that channel in your channel lineup in MP, in order to be able to receive it. I don't know what quality it is (probably similar to DVB-T/T2).</p><p></p><p>You may know that the EPG for DVB-T/T2 (and probably DVB-S/S2) contains series ids and programme ids that uniquely identify every programme (I don't mean the simplistic "SnnEnn" identifications). Commercial DVRs use these to provide true series record capabilities (e.g. my "Humax HDR Fox T2"). The problem is that MP currently does not use this info <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />. However, I believe that the intention is to include support for this in the next major release of TV Server (usually referred to as "TVE 3.5"; note that MP1 uses "TVE 3"). But even then, we consumers of TV will be dependent on the accuracy of the information provided by the broadcasters. Discussions in the Humax forum on Digital Spy include complaints from users to the effect that their series recordings have not worked correctly, apparently because the broadcasters messed up the series ids or programme ids.</p><p></p><p>-- from CyberSimian in the UK</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CyberSimian, post: 1173309, member: 141969"] Once upon a time there were only two TV channels in the UK, and the only programme information available was via listings magazines (and you had to buy [i]both[/i] listings magazines each week, as neither broadcaster allowed its programme schedules to be published in its competitor's listings magazine :mad: ). We have come a long way since then, but programme listings are still far from perfect (and probably never will be perfect). I previously used Windows Media Center on Vista. That used the Microsoft internet EPG (14 days; repeat flag; original broadcast date; avoidance of duplicate recording). But it was not perfect, with the EPG becoming unavailable for days at a time, and containing incorrect information :(. Also, although Microsoft updated the EPG with major changes to the channel lineup, they never added the EPGs for the minor channels. (In fairness to Microsoft, this might have been because the minor channels could not be bothered to send the programme info to Microsoft each day.) I now use the broadcast EPG on DVB-T/T2. Although only 7 days, it includes all channels. There is no repeat flag or original broadcast date, so recording series requires a different approach. Depending on the series, I sometimes record all occurrences, and then run a batch script to compare the xml files and delete recordings that are duplicates. But this has to be done with human intervention, since some series have the same programme description for all episodes (typically documentaries and current affairs programmes, rather than drama). I note that you are using satellite. I believe that there is a broadcast EPG for satellite too, but that it is transmitted in the form of a radio channel, so you need to be sure to include that channel in your channel lineup in MP, in order to be able to receive it. I don't know what quality it is (probably similar to DVB-T/T2). You may know that the EPG for DVB-T/T2 (and probably DVB-S/S2) contains series ids and programme ids that uniquely identify every programme (I don't mean the simplistic "SnnEnn" identifications). Commercial DVRs use these to provide true series record capabilities (e.g. my "Humax HDR Fox T2"). The problem is that MP currently does not use this info :(. However, I believe that the intention is to include support for this in the next major release of TV Server (usually referred to as "TVE 3.5"; note that MP1 uses "TVE 3"). But even then, we consumers of TV will be dependent on the accuracy of the information provided by the broadcasters. Discussions in the Humax forum on Digital Spy include complaints from users to the effect that their series recordings have not worked correctly, apparently because the broadcasters messed up the series ids or programme ids. -- from CyberSimian in the UK [/QUOTE]
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