12noon dc / Win7, please help (1 Viewer)

[Mr.Wifi]

Hi,

I tried to configure 12noon dc like mentioned in the Refeshrate Changer Thread but i don´t get it working...

Instead of Path you need to insert the actual location of the files. i.e. C:\\12NOON\\dc.exe.
"-refresh=" sets the desired refreshrate. In the given example it is 24.

External command:
in c:\ create a text file. As an example name the text file "24hz.bat" or "24hz.cmd". Obviously, this will only be the command to change the Refreshrate to your setting of Cinema/24fps media.
In that text file you need to write (using notepad) the command to change the refreshrate.

How have the action command and the batchfile to look like supposed both are needed ?

Do i need the batchfile or can i change the refreshrate with the action command only ?


Thx in advance

 

[Vimes]

First of all as you knew about the refresh rate changer thread you would have been better to have posted this question there. Not only would that have increased your chances of getting a more informed response but any help offered would have been seen by others who may have benefited from it.

I am using MP 1.02 and the 12noon changer with Windows 7 x64.

Simply install 12noon and then edit the file "MediaPortal.xml" to show the following...

<section name="general"> <<<<< Note that the section below must be placed in the general section of the noted file.


<entry name="autochangerefreshrate">yes</entry>
<entry name="cinema_ext">C:\\Program Files (x86)\\12noon Display Changer\\dccmd.exe -refresh=24 -quiet</entry>
<entry name="pal_ext">C:\\Program Files (x86)\\12noon Display Changer\\dccmd.exe -refresh=50 -quiet</entry>
<entry name="ntsc_ext">C:\\Program Files (x86)\\12noon Display Changer\\dccmd.exe -refresh=60 -quiet</entry>
<entry name="tv_ext">C:\\Program Files (x86)\\12noon Display Changer\\dccmd.exe -refresh=50 -quiet</entry>
<entry name="cinema_fps">23.976;24</entry>
<entry name="pal_fps">25</entry>
<entry name="ntsc_fps">29.97;30</entry>
<entry name="tv_fps">25</entry>
<entry name="cinema_hz">24</entry>
<entry name="pal_hz">50</entry>
<entry name="ntsc_hz">30</entry>
<entry name="tv_hz">50</entry>
<entry name="default_hz">pal_hz</entry>
<entry name="use_default_hz">yes</entry>
<entry name="devicereset">no</entry>
<entry name="force_refresh_rate">no</entry>

You can see the path in the lines above relating to where the 12noon is installed. Make sure that it reflects your installation and that you are also happy with the refresh rates, as well as the default.

The above works fine for me and changes the refresh rate of the TV depending on the source material being played.

 

[Mr.Wifi]

Thanks !

I try it out asap, probably next w.e

 

[Mr.Wifi]

I tried it today, but unfortunately it doesn´t work yet...

I´ve placed the part of the script just between the " "> and replaced general with it like you mentioned. First i tried it with exactly the same script as you posted and then with the (x86) removed from the script because (x86) seems not beeing part of the Path ( Fresh install, i used the default installation path for dc in Win7 32 ). If i close MP and open the XML again with the editor the xml is original, unchanged without the part i copied in previously...

What can i try now ? Is there a command needed inside the refreshrate plugin pointing to dc or somewhere else ?

 

[edterbak]

You can also make a folder under C:\, which is named DC and place all the dc files there. It doesnt needed to be in programm files. Although I dont know how this is in win7 64bit.
Then the command line could look like:
<entry name="cinema_ext">C:\\DC\\dc.exe -refresh=24 -quiet</entry>

You could also try the -force option in there
<entry name="cinema_ext">C:\\DC\\dc.exe -refresh=24 -quiet -force</entry>

Maybe it is a good idea to test the command first. Create a text file in C:\DC\ named "test.bat"
In there write the command you want to use.
C:\\DC\\dc.exe -refresh=24 -quiet
Save it, run it to test if DC is working outside of mediaportal.
If it is needed you can right-click on the bat file to run the file in different modes. If this works, you can use the bat files to work with mediaportal.

Also, make sure that you have tried all the desired refreshrates from within the CCC first. You must have tried them and said yes(its workin) otherwise it doesnt work. Atleast, some people report that.
I presume you are starting MP in a resolution of 1920x1080 right? If its lower it might be the TVset doesnt support all refreshrates you desire.

Maybe this gives you something to work with. Good Luck.

 

[Vimes]

Just to add to the good advice given by edterbak. I have noticed that you are showing that you are using the 1.1 beta, taken from your system information. If that is the cas e then do not bother to edit any file nor should yu install 12noon. Simply install the very latest SVN and tha tshould sort out the refresh rate issues you have, providing that your hardware meets the requirements for the resolution / refresh rate you are intending to use - as noted by edterbak.

I have just completely removed the 1.02 build of MP and I'm now using the latest SVN and with that and Win 7 x64 it switches perfectly.

 

[Mr.Wifi]

You can also make a folder under C:\, which is named DC and place all the dc files there. It doesnt needed to be in programm files. Although I dont know how this is in win7 64bit.
Then the command line could look like:
<entry name="cinema_ext">C:\\DC\\dc.exe -refresh=24 -quiet</entry>

Ok, i have installed the 4.xx version of DC with the setup installer, can i move it to C:\ as well as the 3.xx version without installer ?

You could also try the -force option in there
<entry name="cinema_ext">C:\\DC\\dc.exe -refresh=24 -quiet -force</entry>

thx, i´ll try that when my general 24p problem i detected inside MP is resolved

Maybe it is a good idea to test the command first. Create a text file in C:\DC\ named "test.bat"
In there write the command you want to use.
C:\\DC\\dc.exe -refresh=24 -quiet
Save it, run it to test if DC is working outside of mediaportal.
If it is needed you can right-click on the bat file to run the file in different modes. If this works, you can use the bat files to work with mediaportal.

Good to know, but i already get 24p problems within MP, see my description below...

Also, make sure that you have tried all the desired refreshrates from within the CCC first. You must have tried them and said yes(its workin) otherwise it doesnt work. Atleast, some people report that.
I presume you are starting MP in a resolution of 1920x1080 right? If its lower it might be the TVset doesnt support all refreshrates you desire.

Maybe this gives you something to work with. Good Luck.

Ok, now the problem im dealing with right now, first i have to get 24p working inside MP without the DC....

I use Win7 32 Ultimate, Win7 default decoder and the MPC mpeg2 installed with MP are the only decoders i have actually installed on my system. I´m using NV Graphics ( GF9400, but not the ION Sys in my sig, i have sold this one and have builded a sys with an E7AUM + e3300 CPU ). For proper 24p Playback i usually define 23,976hz manually in the NV driver and with the 186.18 NV driver this works within Win7.

The MP version i use is 1.1 beta + SVN from 10.10.09, the most stable SVN i know about so far reading in the forum.

The newer ones have some major bugs -.-

Before i started MP i changed the custom res to 24p but the Playback is not smooth, i get very strong choppies every 5 sec. Using MPC HC with the same file works flawlessly instead...

I think that i switch back to Beta without SVN or try the latest one,really hard to get everything working inside MP under Win7...

The RC inside MP is disabled though..., haven´t installed SAF yet ( waiting for the new *unlock* because hoborgs old link i use previously won´t work now ).

 

[edterbak]

I think that i switch back to Beta without SVN or try the latest one,really hard to get everything working inside MP under Win7...

Bit of additional information.
For win7 I think the later SVN versions are better. The amount of win7 users was small during the release of MP1.1b, because it was not officially released at that time yet. This is why at the time the OS was officially not supported yet by MP. I think that since then, a lot of bugs were killed with each updates related to win7. This might help you with your choise.

Well, to be honest. I am having a difficult time now to clearly understand what the current problem is you are running into. :sorry: Is the Refreshrate Changer in MP on or not. What resolution + refreshrate do you use when starting MP.
Can you maybe write it down a bit more logically? Chronologically perhaps. Or better yet, just describe what the current problem is and when you see this. And also could you show the commands you are trying to use?


About the DC.exe tool. As far as I know the DC.exe tool with a couple of other files can be transported anywhere. I dont use the version 4.xx, so I can not say this with certainty. You can try it at a differenct location and see if it works. If not, just put it back.

I am not a NVidia user myself, so I cant say with certainty. But I read here and there the latest drivers solve a bug with 24 and 60hz. I dont know the details ofcourse. (I dont even know if your using the latest versions already...)You could read the dynamic refreshrate changer thread about this or the latest MP-SVN thread. It could be related to the thing you are running in to.

again... good luck

 

[Vimes]

Well, to be honest. I am having a difficult time now to clearly understand what the current problem is you are running into.......

Agree

I think that the OP should strongly consider removing what is installed. Then install the latest WHQL drivers from NVidia and then install the 1.1 beta, but do not configure, then install the very latest SVN. Then configure from there but only after installing the latest SAF's. Then ensure that DXVA is being applied as needed.

The above is on the premise that, as edterbak as noted, you are using hardware, including your TV, that is capable of giving you the resolution and refresh rate you are expecting.

Windows 7x6 and MP 1.1 (latest SVN) seems to run extremely well for me and I have not found one issue with it as yet, in wha tI use it for.

 

[Mr.Wifi]

It works

I just installed the new SAF, switched to 24p in the NV driver and started MP and a 24p movie > Flawlessly

Then i have enabled the Refreshrate Changer and it works now without the need of 12noon or other external progs, thats really nice

My TV ( see sig. ) handles 24p well, and the GF9400 Chipset i use as well, so logically there is and was not hardware bottleneck....

Thx for all the help