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<blockquote data-quote="osksa" data-source="post: 1157173" data-attributes="member: 155144"><p>True, I have a hardware problem regarding the TV refresh rate. But video from all sources except the HVR-1100 looks perfect to me, so somehow the players or whatever it is smoothen this out so I can't notice it. For example on mkv movies and live/recording tv when the source is my hardware encoding PVR-150 card looks perfect to me. So although an issue, I don't think it is the source of the motion problem on the HVR-1100.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry did not think about the sharpness, I red that when set to high it can introduce noise in the image. Tried to change it to min (and also max). It did not have much effect. Perhaps it might be just somewhat better with minimum sharpness, but that could also be placebo effect. Contrast setting is not available for the HVR-1100.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>You are totally right, 2, 4 and 5 are from the PVR-150. They look pretty good to me. Image 1 and 3 is as you say grainy. Regarding the sollution, I have perhaps not been clear all the time that I see two different problems: </p><p>1. Motion is not smooth (Here my prime theory has been the encoding, since it looks good when I change encoder. And since the PVR-150 gives good motion with its hardware encoded mpeg)</p><p>2. The image is noisy and grainy. (Here I suspect that the Analog-to-digital converter and/or receiver is of less quality than the ones on the PVR-150. But maybe certain settings can give more noise, like some faild attempt at image enhancement that the card performs perhaps</p><p></p><p>Actually I do have a splitter, and it is a good suggestion to check it out. I tried connecting the cable directly from my cable tv outlet to the HVR-1100, and did some screenshots and compare with screenshots with splitter. I could not see any difference. I think the signal is pretty good. The cable TV installation is made in the nineties, and there is only about a meter of cable from the outlet to my computer. The splitter has a dampening of 3.5 Db which is pretty normal as i understand. And, the PVR-150 gets the same signal and has a lot less noise. </p><p></p><p>Regarding the high noise environment: That is totally true, but does not really explain why one card is giving much better image than the other. And the card Cnet tested from my first post, was also i such a environment, and according to them gave clearly better image than my best card, the PVR-150. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I do use LAV for decoding, and I have the BFF/TFF set to auto. Tried setting it to both manual settings yesterday, did not seem to have any impact. </p><p></p><p>I appreciate the input from both of you. What I did notice yesterday was that I did not use the latest driver on my HVR-1100. I thought that there might be some fix there, so I upgraded. No the image looks worse than before, text is difficult to read. I posted these results on the Hauppauge forum as I don't want to take your private hours to figure that out. This is what it looks like after driver update: =) I will get back here when I have the answer from Hauppauge.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36034444/capture_20151020_145954.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="osksa, post: 1157173, member: 155144"] True, I have a hardware problem regarding the TV refresh rate. But video from all sources except the HVR-1100 looks perfect to me, so somehow the players or whatever it is smoothen this out so I can't notice it. For example on mkv movies and live/recording tv when the source is my hardware encoding PVR-150 card looks perfect to me. So although an issue, I don't think it is the source of the motion problem on the HVR-1100. Sorry did not think about the sharpness, I red that when set to high it can introduce noise in the image. Tried to change it to min (and also max). It did not have much effect. Perhaps it might be just somewhat better with minimum sharpness, but that could also be placebo effect. Contrast setting is not available for the HVR-1100. You are totally right, 2, 4 and 5 are from the PVR-150. They look pretty good to me. Image 1 and 3 is as you say grainy. Regarding the sollution, I have perhaps not been clear all the time that I see two different problems: 1. Motion is not smooth (Here my prime theory has been the encoding, since it looks good when I change encoder. And since the PVR-150 gives good motion with its hardware encoded mpeg) 2. The image is noisy and grainy. (Here I suspect that the Analog-to-digital converter and/or receiver is of less quality than the ones on the PVR-150. But maybe certain settings can give more noise, like some faild attempt at image enhancement that the card performs perhaps Actually I do have a splitter, and it is a good suggestion to check it out. I tried connecting the cable directly from my cable tv outlet to the HVR-1100, and did some screenshots and compare with screenshots with splitter. I could not see any difference. I think the signal is pretty good. The cable TV installation is made in the nineties, and there is only about a meter of cable from the outlet to my computer. The splitter has a dampening of 3.5 Db which is pretty normal as i understand. And, the PVR-150 gets the same signal and has a lot less noise. Regarding the high noise environment: That is totally true, but does not really explain why one card is giving much better image than the other. And the card Cnet tested from my first post, was also i such a environment, and according to them gave clearly better image than my best card, the PVR-150. I do use LAV for decoding, and I have the BFF/TFF set to auto. Tried setting it to both manual settings yesterday, did not seem to have any impact. I appreciate the input from both of you. What I did notice yesterday was that I did not use the latest driver on my HVR-1100. I thought that there might be some fix there, so I upgraded. No the image looks worse than before, text is difficult to read. I posted these results on the Hauppauge forum as I don't want to take your private hours to figure that out. This is what it looks like after driver update: =) I will get back here when I have the answer from Hauppauge. [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36034444/capture_20151020_145954.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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