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<blockquote data-quote="dvdfreak" data-source="post: 199906" data-attributes="member: 21313"><p>Agreed. But this should not be fixed by me reading the TVE3 database, it should be fixed by the TVE3 EPG-grabber feeding the data to TvScheduler (should be a very easy change to TVE3 by the way).</p><p></p><p>I know from a user's point of view you just want this to work, and technically it would be quite possible what you suggest. But it's not the proper way to go, and I feel very strongly about moving forward in a proper way. TvScheduler has been built from the ground up to work in a certain way, has a pretty thought-through design and I want to keep it that way.</p><p></p><p>And while this means I'm not going to go down the road of quickly adding a bunch of features ad-hoc, look at it this way: what you do get is proving to be stable and has had little bugs so far. Quality is number one, features is a close second <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> Services like TvScheduler run day and night, are responsible for recording your programs. So 100% robustness is a must <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Anyway, long (boring) story to tell you that, YES, this is possible, but I'd like to talk to the MP devs about this so we could add support for using TvScheduler to TVE3.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again I agree, the integration should be seamless and is indeed what we all should be aiming for. The plugin I wrote should go away completely IMHO, it's only a temporary kludge to get some recording done <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The up and down arrows only work if you first click on a number in the control. I'm sorry they work that way, but you'll need to take this up with Microsoft since these are standard WinForms controls <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Anyway, pre- and post-recording do work, but you misinterpreted the control values. The values are minutes/seconds and not hours/minutes, so you actually entered a pre-recording of 2 seconds and not 2 minutes. That's why these are lost in the synchronization (TVE3 only supports minutes, no seconds).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks!</p><p></p><p>----</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's fixed now, I assume you were clicking on of the Open/Delete buttons? That's what gave me the error when no recordings were available.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Conflict management will be one of the more interesting things to look at.</p><p></p><p>I was thinking of adding a GetAlternativeShowings() method so for conflict management you could get a list of all other times a program is showing, and that way avoid a conflict by simply recording the repeat instead.</p><p></p><p>In the mean time I looked at TVE3's scheduling code and unless I overlooked it, it appears it currently does <u>not</u> look at the priority setting of a schedule <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> Am I mistaken, and if not, perhaps this is something that can be fixed in TVE3?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dvdfreak, post: 199906, member: 21313"] Agreed. But this should not be fixed by me reading the TVE3 database, it should be fixed by the TVE3 EPG-grabber feeding the data to TvScheduler (should be a very easy change to TVE3 by the way). I know from a user's point of view you just want this to work, and technically it would be quite possible what you suggest. But it's not the proper way to go, and I feel very strongly about moving forward in a proper way. TvScheduler has been built from the ground up to work in a certain way, has a pretty thought-through design and I want to keep it that way. And while this means I'm not going to go down the road of quickly adding a bunch of features ad-hoc, look at it this way: what you do get is proving to be stable and has had little bugs so far. Quality is number one, features is a close second :D Services like TvScheduler run day and night, are responsible for recording your programs. So 100% robustness is a must :) Anyway, long (boring) story to tell you that, YES, this is possible, but I'd like to talk to the MP devs about this so we could add support for using TvScheduler to TVE3. Again I agree, the integration should be seamless and is indeed what we all should be aiming for. The plugin I wrote should go away completely IMHO, it's only a temporary kludge to get some recording done :) The up and down arrows only work if you first click on a number in the control. I'm sorry they work that way, but you'll need to take this up with Microsoft since these are standard WinForms controls ;) Anyway, pre- and post-recording do work, but you misinterpreted the control values. The values are minutes/seconds and not hours/minutes, so you actually entered a pre-recording of 2 seconds and not 2 minutes. That's why these are lost in the synchronization (TVE3 only supports minutes, no seconds). Thanks! ---- It's fixed now, I assume you were clicking on of the Open/Delete buttons? That's what gave me the error when no recordings were available. Conflict management will be one of the more interesting things to look at. I was thinking of adding a GetAlternativeShowings() method so for conflict management you could get a list of all other times a program is showing, and that way avoid a conflict by simply recording the repeat instead. In the mean time I looked at TVE3's scheduling code and unless I overlooked it, it appears it currently does [U]not[/U] look at the priority setting of a schedule :( Am I mistaken, and if not, perhaps this is something that can be fixed in TVE3? [/QUOTE]
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