How do recordings get allocated to cards? (1 Viewer)

[jameson_uk]

Is there any advanced logic in allocating recordings to cards or is it that a recording will simply be allocated to the next card based on priority that is capable of tuning to the required channel?

I have dual DVB-T and a single DVB-S2 tuner, in config I have set the the DVB-S2 card in the middle which I believe should mean that one DVB-T tuner is the default for live TV and one is the default for recordings?

Last night I had a weekly schedule record 21:00 to 22:00 on a channel that is DVB-T only. I then scheduled another recording 21:00 to 22:00 on a channel that is on all three tuners. Finally I scheduled a recording from 23:00 to ??? on a channel which is only on DVB-S2 tuner.

Now obviously it is possible that all these recordings could work in parallel if records were assigned so that
DVB-T1 - Weekly Schedule on terrestrial only channel
DVB-S - Satellite only channel
DVB-T2 - Other recording

but I got the conflict screen pop up as the second recording (21:00 to 22:00) had been allocated to the DVB-S2 card.

So (finally) my question is wherer this is working as it should (I believe it is given the order I added the recordings) and whether I can do anything about this? It would seem that if card allocation is re-calculated each time a recording is added it could avoid the situation above without much hassle???

I can see there is a conflict manager plugin in TV server but I am sure I have seen various references to this not working? If this does work when is it triggered? Does it re-analyse card allocation each time a new recording is added?

 

[jameson_uk]

anyone??

All I can find about the conflict manager plugin is a Mantis entry to sort out the client side and lots of lots of unanswered threads.

 

[rmeredit]

Hi,

I'm not a dev, but have you properly assigned the channels to the various cards in the TV Server config? I could see this happening if you hadn't correctly assigned the channel that the third recording was on to the second DVB-T tuner - that is, you need to assign channels to each tuner, not each card.

Just a thought.

Good luck trouble shooting,

Rob.

 

[jameson_uk]

I'm not a dev, but have you properly assigned the channels to the various cards in the TV Server config? I could see this happening if you hadn't correctly assigned the channel that the third recording was on to the second DVB-T tuner - that is, you need to assign channels to each tuner, not each card

Yep that is all working. Watched it use the DVB-T and DVB-S2 tuner and leave the second DVB-T tuner unused. Then recording of satellite only channel started once post recording of other recording had finished (so missed a couple of minutes from the start of the film....)

 

[jameson_uk]

seems as no response here decided to play myself a see what happens.

Fell at first hurdle though as the TV server plugin appears to have been removed....

I am guessing the plugin mentioned in the Wiki
TV-Server/Configuration/Plugins/ConflictsManager - MediaPortal Manual Documentation
has been removed as it does not work?

 

[tourettes]

In short, conflig manager is not complete (I don't know the current state, but I assume that it just notices the conflicts.). Broce was working on that area before the real life did get him busy "for years".

 

[jameson_uk]

In short, conflig manager is not complete (I don't know the current state, but I assume that it just notices the conflicts.). Broce was working on that area before the real life did get him busy "for years".

It looks like he was working on the client side not server? The server plugin looks in a reasonable state in SVN but the DLL is not shipped with RC1. I am guessing that with Broce disappearing no-one is sure how good the code is? Just wondering whether it is worth compiling this TV plugin myself or whether it was removed because it had issues ??

Regardless of plugin, question still remains... when do recordings get allocated to cards? Is this purely at record time and this can be overridden by the value of recommendedcard in schedule table (all my schedules have this set to -1). This is not ideal as schedule table is at schedule level and card allocation should be at recording level?

 

[rmeredit]

I'm not a dev, but have you properly assigned the channels to the various cards in the TV Server config? I could see this happening if you hadn't correctly assigned the channel that the third recording was on to the second DVB-T tuner - that is, you need to assign channels to each tuner, not each card

Yep that is all working. Watched it use the DVB-T and DVB-S2 tuner and leave the second DVB-T tuner unused. Then recording of satellite only channel started once post recording of other recording had finished (so missed a couple of minutes from the start of the film....)

Which is exactly what you'd see if you hadn't assigned any channels to the second DVB-T tuner in the TV Server config. Have you ever been able to see the 2nd DVB-T tuner working with live TV?

 

[tourettes]

It looks like he was working on the client side not server? The server plugin looks in a reasonable state in SVN but the DLL is not shipped with RC1. I am guessing that with Broce disappearing no-one is sure how good the code is? Just wondering whether it is worth compiling this TV plugin myself or whether it was removed because it had issues ??

Not sure about the current state, but I'm quite sure that there has been good reasons to remove it (most likely it was not completed). And therefore it would be quite adventurous to use that plugin

Regardless of plugin, question still remains... when do recordings get allocated to cards? Is this purely at record time and this can be overridden by the value of recommendedcard in schedule table (all my schedules have this set to -1). This is not ideal as schedule table is at schedule level and card allocation should be at recording level?

Not sure, haven't had to look into this since I have only three muxes available (mostly watching / recording from two) and two DVB-C cards so I haven't bothered with the details of conflict management at all.

 

[jameson_uk]

Which is exactly what you'd see if you hadn't assigned any channels to the second DVB-T tuner in the TV Server config. Have you ever been able to see the 2nd DVB-T tuner working with live TV?

Yeah bad explanation... Channels definitely assigned to both DVB-T tuners (due to the priority ordering one is used as the default for live TV and the other for recording)