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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1071179" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Hello and welcome! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I'll attempt to answer a few of the TV related questions... or at least add a little info.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The general answer is that it is more customisable, which might mean you can do "things" you weren't able to do in WMC. It is hard to be more specific about "things" because people care about different things. For me I just hated how inflexible and frustrating WMC was with respect to channel management, and that it only allowed me to tune one channel per tuner. I don't know what the reasons will be for you...</p><p>CableCARD tuner support in MP is still relatively new. It does have a few quirks, but anecdotal reports suggest that people think it is a bit faster than WMC at changing channels.</p><p>The info in the guide aspect would entirely depend on what information you're able to grab (there is no "curated" guide like WMC gives you). You can get programmes highlighted by genre etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For guide setup please take a look here:</p><p><a href="http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/13_Setup_Guides/2_TV_Setup/4_TV_Guide_Setup_%28EPG%29" target="_blank">http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/13_Setup_Guides/2_TV_Setup/4_TV_Guide_Setup_(EPG)</a></p><p></p><p>Here's a shortlist of your options with links to the best info/guide I could find:</p><p><a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/setup-help.124506/#post-1061869" target="_blank">https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/setup-help.124506/#post-1061869</a></p><p></p><p>Sorry, I can't tell you the "best" way. It will vary by person, region and provider... so pick one of the options and give it a shot, and if you don't like it for whatever reason try another. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>All cable providers pump EPG data from their headends, but they do it with proprietary schemes that are not documented anywhere and that I was not able to figure out. So, the standard FIOS EPG data is not an option.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Shouldn't do... but then as above: CableCARD support in MP is new and does have a few quirks, one of which is that sometimes there is an extended delay when changing channel. So, I can't make any guarantees... BUT, I'll be here to provide support if you do find problems.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not that I'm aware of, at least not into the TV recording database (video database would be another story). The problem with WMC recordings is WTV - proprietary, possibly encrypted, wraps all the metadata. That combination is not a good recipe for good transferability.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Without meaning to be the standards police: ATSC is over the air TV, so the above sentence is a bit confusing... but I think I know what you mean. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>The answer is: yes, you won't be able to play recordings marked "copy-once". They'll be encrypted and unplayable outside WMC. With FIOS those tend to be the recordings from premium channels such as HBO, Showtime etc.</p><p>For other recordings ("copy freely") I'm not actually sure. It might be a case of "suck it and see". <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Some people like XBMC's interface and ecosystem; other people swing more towards MediaPortal. It is whatever suits you. Apparently the TV support/integration in MediaPortal is better (not really surprising, all things considered).</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, not really. It looks like you found the setup info in the wiki so as long as you stick to that you should at least be able to get up and running.</p><p>I note that you can install and run MP in parallel with WMC. TV Server should detect when a tuner is in use in other software and avoid using it.</p><p>To avoid random clashing with WMC (ie. WMC comes and tries to use a tuner while MP is using it):</p><p>1. Disable the DVB EPG grabber (untick timeshifting and idle checkboxes):</p><p><a href="http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/05_DVB_EPG" target="_blank">http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/05_DVB_EPG</a></p><p></p><p>It wouldn't get you EPG data anyway so this is no loss.</p><p></p><p>2. Possibly disable tuners here to prevent TV Server ever using them (ie. allow WMC exclusive access to them):</p><p><a href="http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/02_TV_Servers" target="_blank">http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/02_TV_Servers</a></p><p>...or otherwise for complete peace of mind simply stop the MP TV service when not in use (note: it normally starts automatically on bootup).</p><p></p><p>Welcome again. Hope to see you around. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>mm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1071179, member: 82144"] Hello and welcome! :) I'll attempt to answer a few of the TV related questions... or at least add a little info. The general answer is that it is more customisable, which might mean you can do "things" you weren't able to do in WMC. It is hard to be more specific about "things" because people care about different things. For me I just hated how inflexible and frustrating WMC was with respect to channel management, and that it only allowed me to tune one channel per tuner. I don't know what the reasons will be for you... CableCARD tuner support in MP is still relatively new. It does have a few quirks, but anecdotal reports suggest that people think it is a bit faster than WMC at changing channels. The info in the guide aspect would entirely depend on what information you're able to grab (there is no "curated" guide like WMC gives you). You can get programmes highlighted by genre etc. For guide setup please take a look here: [url]http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/13_Setup_Guides/2_TV_Setup/4_TV_Guide_Setup_%28EPG%29[/url] Here's a shortlist of your options with links to the best info/guide I could find: [url]https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/setup-help.124506/#post-1061869[/url] Sorry, I can't tell you the "best" way. It will vary by person, region and provider... so pick one of the options and give it a shot, and if you don't like it for whatever reason try another. :) All cable providers pump EPG data from their headends, but they do it with proprietary schemes that are not documented anywhere and that I was not able to figure out. So, the standard FIOS EPG data is not an option. Shouldn't do... but then as above: CableCARD support in MP is new and does have a few quirks, one of which is that sometimes there is an extended delay when changing channel. So, I can't make any guarantees... BUT, I'll be here to provide support if you do find problems. Not that I'm aware of, at least not into the TV recording database (video database would be another story). The problem with WMC recordings is WTV - proprietary, possibly encrypted, wraps all the metadata. That combination is not a good recipe for good transferability. Without meaning to be the standards police: ATSC is over the air TV, so the above sentence is a bit confusing... but I think I know what you mean. :) The answer is: yes, you won't be able to play recordings marked "copy-once". They'll be encrypted and unplayable outside WMC. With FIOS those tend to be the recordings from premium channels such as HBO, Showtime etc. For other recordings ("copy freely") I'm not actually sure. It might be a case of "suck it and see". :) Some people like XBMC's interface and ecosystem; other people swing more towards MediaPortal. It is whatever suits you. Apparently the TV support/integration in MediaPortal is better (not really surprising, all things considered). No, not really. It looks like you found the setup info in the wiki so as long as you stick to that you should at least be able to get up and running. I note that you can install and run MP in parallel with WMC. TV Server should detect when a tuner is in use in other software and avoid using it. To avoid random clashing with WMC (ie. WMC comes and tries to use a tuner while MP is using it): 1. Disable the DVB EPG grabber (untick timeshifting and idle checkboxes): [url]http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/05_DVB_EPG[/url] It wouldn't get you EPG data anyway so this is no loss. 2. Possibly disable tuners here to prevent TV Server ever using them (ie. allow WMC exclusive access to them): [url]http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/02_TV_Servers[/url] ...or otherwise for complete peace of mind simply stop the MP TV service when not in use (note: it normally starts automatically on bootup). Welcome again. Hope to see you around. :) mm [/QUOTE]
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