Media databases in MP would be nice (1 Viewer)

Would you like to have Media databases in MP (Like meedio had)?


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Glith

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April 19, 2006
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Hi.
I'm missing the database structure Meedio had..... Currently I have two harddrives with my movies, MP3s, Clips, Music videos,TV-series etc. spread among them.

The movies/clips/videos are also arranged by genre.

The database in MP is not very fast importing the movies and is not very user friendly... and it doenst work with my music videos, tv-series or clips.

Now i have to create a "share" for every directory I have and drill down in each and every one of them to be able to see everything.

Meedio had importers which scanned for the media files and put them nicely into the databases..
There I had all movies in a single database even if they where on different harddrives/folders.
And also the same thing with my TV-series, Clips and music videos.

Then you could add different views that presented the databases very nicely sorted by what you wanted.. Genre, Title, Length, you name it.....

There was also nice plugins that allowed the databases to be updated with IMDB-info or TV-series information.

It would be excellent if this could be done in MP since right now it is very hard to get a good overview of my media.
 

Glith

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Maybe there is some MP developer that wants to make this happen?? :D
 

patrick

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Glith said:
Hi.
I'm missing the database structure Meedio had..... Currently I have two harddrives with my movies, MP3s, Clips, Music videos,TV-series etc. spread among them.

The movies/clips/videos are also arranged by genre.

The database in MP is not very fast importing the movies and is not very user friendly... and it doenst work with my music videos, tv-series or clips.

Now i have to create a "share" for every directory I have and drill down in each and every one of them to be able to see everything.

Meedio had importers which scanned for the media files and put them nicely into the databases..
There I had all movies in a single database even if they where on different harddrives/folders.
And also the same thing with my TV-series, Clips and music videos.

Then you could add different views that presented the databases very nicely sorted by what you wanted.. Genre, Title, Length, you name it.....

There was also nice plugins that allowed the databases to be updated with IMDB-info or TV-series information.

It would be excellent if this could be done in MP since right now it is very hard to get a good overview of my media.

I have never used meedio so maybe I do not understand what you are asking, but MP has media databases.
For example, go into the setup(configuration.exe) then to the music section there is a Music Database selection(to import the music into the database) as well as a Music Views section (to define How you want to look at the media).
This is also available for the Movies section (IIRC also with IMDB lookup).

HTH,
patrick
 

Glith

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Well.. Hard to explain. But the built in databases for Movies and Music in MP is not good at all if you have tried meedios even once.
Hard to explain.. But in meedio you could create your own database depending on the media.
If i wanted a database with all my funny clips i could simply create a database and get it to import all my funny clips into it and then have meedio present it nicely in the main menu if i wanted.

I could simply do that for all my media types and the importers imported in the intervals you wanted.

in MP i have to go into the configuration and manually trigger an movie import and then it takes forever until every movie is imported with the correct impormation. And my funny clips and series is not imported.

Then I still have to browse all different directories MP since my media is scattered around on different harddrives and different folders.

Meedio had three important things to get it to work.
*The media module which associated an menu item with the database of your choice and played the database item.
* The database
* The importers which imported the files into the databases of your choice. Could be different importers.. ID3-importer for music, file importer for all other media which also can use some RegExp function and many other importers.
The importers had different setting based on the database.

Anyway.. If some developer is interested to do something similar then he/she could have a quick look at meedio.


I love MP but this is one thing i really really miss from meedio.
 

pStar

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August 12, 2005
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i'd also like to see such a database in MP. i think there is already a database structure in MP (eg. videos.db3). but this thing ist very complicated to use (i used the configuration.exe to scan my video folder but nothing appeared in the db3 file. btw. i have no internetconnection with my htpc).
wouldn't it be nice to have a little tool/gui for filling the database (like sceneo has with vmedia) with some importers which read id3-tags, cover arts, csv-sheets (eg.movie infos) from media-organizers etc...
regards
 

MariachiElf

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While I know there has been much debate surrounding the databases I really believe they are critical to the long term usability of MP.

Beyond that, I'm can see the current database structure is going to be unwieldly to fully implement the features I'm building.

I have no experience with Meedio and with only 20 votes (albeit most for yes) in a thread whose title isn't about acutally implementing it, I'm going to be starting a new thread with the words "Master Media Database" in the subject geared more towrds the work I'm actually going to be doing which is about creating one central master tracking and search database to index all the other databases and normalize the identities of media in the other database.

That said, some of the features you've described are certainly worth implementing if someone has the vision and desire to do so.

I think what makes the ideas presented here difficult for devs to envision in MP is the current DB structure is not centralized, there are many "silos" of media databases that are each tied to their own Plugins. This is good because developers of those plugins can have authority over their silos, but bad because the end user experience is very disjointed across different media types.

Hopefully folks who have posted here can also weigh in on the new thread with some features you'd like to ensure are easy to enable/implement so they can be kept in mind during the design discussion.
 

pStar

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August 12, 2005
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hi
glad to hear someone thinking the way i do. i really appreciate the thought of a central database structure.
i currently checked out the myFilms plugin which uses the ant movie catalog xml database file to give access to all my movies. and to say: this works really well and it's amazingly fast (in comparison to the myvideo plugin, if you've got lots of mediafiles). just to mention.
regards
 

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