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Hi again Vasilich

Well, I'm confused then. Is there not also a problem with listing all channels in the first tab? I can add some logging for the channel groups and see if it makes any difference, but like you say, 260 channels is not even close to 4500. Unfortunately I don't have a test machine otherwise I could happily load up your channel list for testing. I'll see how easy it would be to take a backup of my DB so that I can test your list...

mm