pause between overlapping recordings (1 Viewer)

[AxelSt]

Hi,

I dunno whether this can be considered as a bug, but at least it is a bit annoying:

When I schedule two recordings with the second following right after the first (e.g. a double-episode of a tv series), the second recording does not follow seamlessly (there is a short break). As the programs never appear 100% exact according to the schedule, the break is always inmid of an episode within the recording. Is it possible to let the second recording start right where the first one ended? I was a Sceneo-User before and there the recordings follow each other seamlessly.

Thanks,
Axel

 

[Frodo]

Latest version of the tvserver handles this much better (when you have a DVB card) since it can record multiple programs on 1 channel at the same time

 

[AxelSt]

Thank you, Frodo! So I will have Al Bundy without pause

PS: The MediaPortal Website, the support system and the version management is much more professional than anything I have seen so far.

 

[AxelSt]

Hi,

even with the 10th February version of TV-Server3 I still have this issue of back-to-back recordings not working. However, it seems that it is only not working when the two programs have exactly the same name. This happens, for instance, when two episodes of a comedy series follow each other directly on the same channel. I suspected that maybe the filename is the cause, therefore I changed the naming-conventions such that the start-time is included in the filename. This makes the recordings named differently by design. However, this turned out not to be the reason. Still, there is a pause between the two recordings although they should actually overlap (5 mins pre- and past recording time).
The funny thing is, that with programs that have a different name in the epg, this overlap seems to work: I get two files with the end of the first recording overlapping about 5mins with the beginning of the second recording.
Can this be?

Greetings,
Axel

PS: sorry to not have mentioned it: yes, I have a DVB-S Satellite TV card in my computer (Philips 7131/7134-Chipset)

 

[AxelSt]

sorry for always prattling about this topic However: I think I have found out what the problem with back-to-back recordings is. Here is the problem:

- two episodes of a comedy series in a row. I use the "Serienaufnahme" (what's this in english? "get 'em all" or the like?) in the EPG. The two episodes of that comedy are scheduled for recording (three red spots in the EPG on each episode).
- the first program is recorded ok: recording starts 5 mins earlier and ends 5 mins after the first episode. However, the second recording starts only after the first recording is finished (there is even a nasty pause of a few seconds). This gives me an unusable recording of the second episode, as there is a pause inmid of the program even when I concatenate the last 5 minutes of the first recording.
- now I found out: this ONLY happens with "Serienaufnahme"! when I schedule the two episodes as if they were separate programs (only one red button shows up in the EPG instead of three for "Serienaufnahme"), everything is fine: the first episode and the second episode have 5 mins pre- and 5 minutes past-recording time. This means, of course, they overlap. This is how it should be and how Frodo has programmed it.

So conclusion would be: there must be sthg wrong with the scheduling of "Serienaufnahme" for two programs which follw each other directly.
Hope this helps. Of course, this is not priority one I will manually schedule the episodes from now on without using "Serienaufnahme".

Axel

 

[tourettes]

PS: sorry to not have mentioned it: yes, I have a DVB-S Satellite TV card in my computer (Philips 7131/7134-Chipset)

Are you using a CAM to decode encrypted channels? Some CAMs aren't able to decrypt more than one channel at a time.

 

[AxelSt]

no, tourette. I am not using a CAM. Plus: this is not what I have been talking about. First: of course it is the SAME channel on which the two episodes follow each other. So the problem has nothing to do with multiple channels. Second: the simultaneous recording of two files actually works: I HAVE the overlap when I schedule the episodes without using the "get them all" feature.
Actually, I believe that the problem already arises when scheduling the episodes with "get them all": already then, the internal scheduler seems to prevent the temporal overlap. I guess it is no big deal. Probably, Frodo has just forgotten about "get them all"-schedules when he added the feature to record multiple files simultaneously on the same transponder/same channel. Plus: I admit that this bug occurs in very rare cases only: in the situation where two episodes follow each other and are scheduled with "get them all"

Axel

 

[tourettes]

Plus: this is not what I have been talking about. First: of course it is the SAME channel on which the two episodes follow each other. Axel

Back to back recordings need multi channel support when post/pre recording times are used. That's why I asked about it

 

[AxelSt]

ok, I see, Tourette. Thanks for your response. But as I said: the multichannel recording really works. There arises just a problem when I use the "get them all"-scheduling.
As I said, it's no big deal. I wouldn't have even mentioned it if the pause between the recordings would be minimal. Sceneo TVCentral v2, which I have used before, did not have the feature of recording multiple programs at the same time as far as I know. So there was no overlap possible. However, there there was no pause between back-to-back recordings nevertheless. The switching from one recording-file to the next was instantaneous. Of course, if the overlap feature really works, it is much better in MP, because I would never have to concatenate portions of different files when past-processing the recordings afterwards. I had to do that in Sceneo v2 all the time.

Greetings,
Axel

 

[andreaswith]

Hello! This is a bug in both tve2 and tve3 it seems: https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/record_every_time_channel_why_did_mp-t13631.html

It is reported in mantis as a bug in tve2, but not three as far as I can see: http://mantis.team-mediaportal.com/view.php?id=956

It is the same error as far as I can see. Don't you think?

Andreas