Problem: wav file titles not appearing in menus (2 Viewers)

[KevL]

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Hi

I have recently installed MP.

I have a collection of .wav files.

These are arranged as d:\music\artist\album\track.wav

I can get the music player to recognise and list artist name and album name but titles are not displaeyd.

Instead I get a list of "unknown" files. These seem to play but the menu is of limited utility.

I have attached my config file for info.

This shows that the files are recognised as untagged files and the titles are shown in the config file.

Yet the titles are not displayed in the music player menu.

I have not yet setup any other part of MP - so far I have just looked at music.

Maybe I've missed a setting somewhere.

I know about the "benefits" of MP3 and other formats but I prefer to leave my files as raw .wav files.

Many thanks.

Kev

 

[KevL]

I think I understand why the wav file titles are appearing as "unknown" (if I understand the format of the musicdatabasev8.db3 file correctly (big if)).

I opened the database using the supplied sql db viewer app.

In the table "song" I see many fields.

One is called strFilename (presumably filename string) this is populated with sensible looking titles (e.g. horrible-Tune1.wav)

I can see that there is another field called strTitle (presumably the title of the song which is then displayed in the song title field in the MP music player menu).

The strTitle field is entirely empty.

So if the intention is for the music database scanning program to populate the strTitle field with the string from the filename field, minus the .wav string at the end, when it encouters untagged music files - then it appears (for whatever reason) that this is not happening.

Still cant rule out incompetence on my part.


Kev

 

[hwahrmann]

Scanning files, means that we look up for tags in the filename.
Naturally we won't find any tags in a WAV file, since there's nothing like tagging.
so there's nothing we could tag at all. no artist, no album, etc.
For that purpose, we still have the "Shares" view, which will browse the file system and don't use the database content, since there's no valueable information anyhow.

In your first post you said, you were able to recognize artist and album?
how did you do that? Manually inserting them into the db?
that's the only thing i can think of.
if so, why didn't you insert then a title as well?

And you will loose this information again on the next scan.

so it's probably better if you use a lossless codec, like FLAC, to convert your wav file. this would give you the ability to tag the files.
But if you want to continue with WAV format, you should use the "Share" View.

btw: SVN 15561 contains new logic to use the filename as Title, when no tags are found. so you've at least a title.
tough i dounbt that this will be usefulm when having all wav files under artist: unknown and album: unknown.

 

[KevL]

Scanning files, means that we look up for tags in the filename.
Naturally we won't find any tags in a WAV file, since there's nothing like tagging.
so there's nothing we could tag at all. no artist, no album, etc.
For that purpose, we still have the "Shares" view, which will browse the file system and don't use the database content, since there's no valueable information anyhow.

In your first post you said, you were able to recognize artist and album?
how did you do that? Manually inserting them into the db?
that's the only thing i can think of.
if so, why didn't you insert then a title as well?

And you will loose this information again on the next scan.

Many thanks for the reply. Now I'm really confused.
I have not manually edited anything in the databse or elsewhere.

I can recognise artist and album becuase that is what appears in the MP music menu. When I enter the music player I see a list of artists. If I click on an artist I see a list of albums from that artist. If I pick an album I see a list of songs (the same number as are on the album) but they are all called unknown.

I have rescanned several times. I dont seem to need to rescan every time I enter MP. The information is written to the database when I scan ands seems to stay there.


Kev

 

[hwahrmann]

do you have maybe some mp3 files of such an artist lying around?

i see no other way, how this information could have made it into the db.
We're definitely not parsing a wav file, since there's nothing to parse.

 

[hwahrmann]

wait a bit, i've just ran through a post of your in a different thread, where you described the diretoy structure you have as:

C:\Music Share\%artist%\%album%\

and this is what gets displayed in the "Share Views".
We show you the directory structure, which contains Artist and Album.
There's nothing in the database about that.

 

[KevL]

OK that makes sense. I'll try SVN 15561.

Many thanks for your kind help.

Kev

Hi

I have installed the latest SVN. (I couldn't find the recommended 15561 so I installed SVN 15650).

Followed instructions associated with the SVN to the letter.

Behavious is exactly the same as with 0.2.3 RC1.

I think I've bored you with this issue enough now so I will heed your advice and retry MP when I have ripped my wavs to flac files.

Many thanks

Kev