[no Bug] Scheduled recording of first programme on channel stops TV (1 Viewer)

[doveman]

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I was watching BBC1 and a scheduled recording on BBC3 started, which caused LiveTV to freeze. The scheduled recording was of the first programme broadcast today on BBC3 (at 7pm, with the lead-in set to 3 mins in config), so it appears that something about the signal broadcast (or lack of signal) before actual programmes begin might cause this behaviour in MP. Certainly trying to play BBC3 at this point resulted in an error message. Checking in TV Server config showed that the recording was proceeding fine however, and I was also able to Timeshift BBC3 on my other tuner without any problem from there.

 

[jameson_uk]

This is by design

2011-06-24 18:57:11.968111 [scheduler thread(10)]: scheduler: recording failed, lets try next available card.

and yes BBC three is a right pain for this.

In not nice but is not a bug. Unfortunately it is very difficult for MP to know if the tuner could not tune because the channel was warming up or because there was an issue with someone's aerial/dish. IIRC there is an option to turn this off in setup that will stop it trying on different tuners and just keep trying on the same one

 

[doveman]

Fair enough. You're quite right that there is an option to tell MP to only try one tuner for recording, but I'm reluctant to enable this as there are probably other occasions when I might have two recordings scheduled and I would want them to use both tuners and stop LiveTV if necessary, so I'll just have to put up with this quirk, which will probably be less of a problem overall.

It's only 'cos Glastobury's on at the moment that I've got the first programme on BBC3 scheduled to record!

 

[jameson_uk]

Fair enough. You're quite right that there is an option to tell MP to only try one tuner for recording, but I'm reluctant to enable this as there are probably other occasions when I might have two recordings scheduled and I would want them to use both tuners and stop LiveTV if necessary, so I'll just have to put up with this quirk, which will probably be less of a problem overall.

It's only 'cos Glastobury's on at the moment that I've got the first programme on BBC3 scheduled to record!

You can adjust the schedule to have a 0 minute pre-record time and that should fix it.

 

[elliottmc]

Hi,

To be fair, if it fails, it should keep re-trying, so it should actually record. This was fixed a while ago.

Mark

 

[doveman]

Fair enough. You're quite right that there is an option to tell MP to only try one tuner for recording, but I'm reluctant to enable this as there are probably other occasions when I might have two recordings scheduled and I would want them to use both tuners and stop LiveTV if necessary, so I'll just have to put up with this quirk, which will probably be less of a problem overall.

It's only 'cos Glastobury's on at the moment that I've got the first programme on BBC3 scheduled to record!

You can adjust the schedule to have a 0 minute pre-record time and that should fix it.

I'll set it to 1 minute, as BBC3 starts to transmit a signal 1-2 minutes before the first programme, so that should fix it and hopefully it's still enough to avoid missing the start of any other recordings. I imagine programmes are more likely to be late than early anyway, so it's probably more important to have a few minutes post-record set.

Hi,

To be fair, if it fails, it should keep re-trying, so it should actually record. This was fixed a while ago.

Mark

Yeah it does record, it was just confusing why LiveTV stopped as I have two tuners, but I understand now.

Actually, what will happen if I set "Maximum free cards to try" to 1 and enable "Allow server to stop LiveTV when no free card is available"?

Will it then just keep trying on one tuner until BBC3 starts transmitting, leaving any LiveTV working? And if I've got two scheduled recordings and am watching LiveTV, will it still stop LiveTV if necessary with these settings?