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<blockquote data-quote="breese" data-source="post: 993870" data-attributes="member: 114299"><p>Futher discussions with SD thru email:</p><p> </p><p>Tribune's systems (we get our data from Tribune) are not programmed to</p><p>support QAM because the cable companies don't want to distribute QAM</p><p>data, so Tribune isn't going to do the R&D to support QAM if there's no</p><p>"market" for it. Since the cable companies are the ones that would need</p><p>to request the requirement, (and they're not), Tribune isn’t going to</p><p>implement something which won’t be used, and which the cable companies</p><p>won’t supply data for in the first place. We've asked Tribune, and for</p><p>whatever reason, the cable companies seem to consider QAM tuning</p><p>information as proprietary.</p><p></p><p>If you find QAM channels using a scan you'll need to check the wiki /</p><p>mailing list / support forum for your application for instructions on</p><p>how to correlate the channels you found via QAM with the XMLTV id's of</p><p>existing channels in one of the other lineups.</p><p></p><p>Schedules Direct is trying to collect QAM tuning data from our users to</p><p>make this easier in the future:</p><p><a href="http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1211" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0066cc">http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1211</span></u></a></p><p><a href="http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1206" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0066cc">http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1206</span></u></a></p><p></p><p>but that doesn't help if there's no one else in your headend that has</p><p>already performed the scan and sent us the data.</p><p></p><p>If you're willing to run the scan programs discussed in the forum post</p><p>then that can help you and others in the future.</p><p></p><p>If you can't run the scan, then supplying information like you got with</p><p>your MediaPortal could also work, but I'd have to manually add it.</p><p></p><p>As far as CBSHD, when you tune it in and watch, is it your local CBS</p><p>affiliate, or CBS Sports, or something else?</p><p></p><p>Say that it's your local affiliate, but WOW puts it on the wire with</p><p>"CBSHD" instead of their over-the-air callsign, like "WBBM-DT". In that</p><p>case, you'd have to make a mapping on your own, so that "CBSHD" is</p><p>matched to "20454" (because that's the stationID of WBBMDT, and that's</p><p>how you'll get the schedule information synced between what we send you</p><p>and what you have.)</p><p></p><p>Now, say it's something like CBSHDSports, and that station is listed in</p><p>the WOW EPG as channel 890, but 890 isn't in the lineup, then we can get</p><p>it added, because that means that WOW updated the lineup and didn't tell</p><p>Tribune, and we have to "remind" them. You'd open a ticket saying</p><p>"Channel 890 is in the WOW EPG, but not in the lineup. 890 is CBS Sports</p><p>HD".</p><p></p><p>If it's not listed on their website or printed material, but it is on</p><p>the set top box EPG, then that's still fixable, because it just means</p><p>that right hand and left hand aren't talking to each other.</p><p></p><p>If it's truly a "wild" channel, and WOW won't confirm with Tribune that</p><p>it's a real channel, then you're stuck, because it won't get added to</p><p>the lineup unless WOW says that it belongs there. In that case you can</p><p>try to find another lineup (lets say Comcast) in another zip code and</p><p>setup that one lineup with just one channel in it so that you can get</p><p>the schedule for that station.</p><p></p><p>We're actively working on a new offering that gives us the capability of</p><p>manipulating the channels so that a "wild" channel could get added,</p><p>along with QAM tuning data. It's in open beta right now, but because</p><p>it's an entirely different format (JSON), MediaPortal would need a new</p><p>grabber.</p><p></p><p>Discussion of the beta are at </p><p></p><p><a href="http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewforum.php?f=8" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0066cc">http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewforum.php?f=8</span></u></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="breese, post: 993870, member: 114299"] Futher discussions with SD thru email: Tribune's systems (we get our data from Tribune) are not programmed to support QAM because the cable companies don't want to distribute QAM data, so Tribune isn't going to do the R&D to support QAM if there's no "market" for it. Since the cable companies are the ones that would need to request the requirement, (and they're not), Tribune isn’t going to implement something which won’t be used, and which the cable companies won’t supply data for in the first place. We've asked Tribune, and for whatever reason, the cable companies seem to consider QAM tuning information as proprietary. If you find QAM channels using a scan you'll need to check the wiki / mailing list / support forum for your application for instructions on how to correlate the channels you found via QAM with the XMLTV id's of existing channels in one of the other lineups. Schedules Direct is trying to collect QAM tuning data from our users to make this easier in the future: [URL='http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1211'][U][COLOR=#0066cc]http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1211[/COLOR][/U][/URL] [URL='http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1206'][U][COLOR=#0066cc]http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1206[/COLOR][/U][/URL] but that doesn't help if there's no one else in your headend that has already performed the scan and sent us the data. If you're willing to run the scan programs discussed in the forum post then that can help you and others in the future. If you can't run the scan, then supplying information like you got with your MediaPortal could also work, but I'd have to manually add it. As far as CBSHD, when you tune it in and watch, is it your local CBS affiliate, or CBS Sports, or something else? Say that it's your local affiliate, but WOW puts it on the wire with "CBSHD" instead of their over-the-air callsign, like "WBBM-DT". In that case, you'd have to make a mapping on your own, so that "CBSHD" is matched to "20454" (because that's the stationID of WBBMDT, and that's how you'll get the schedule information synced between what we send you and what you have.) Now, say it's something like CBSHDSports, and that station is listed in the WOW EPG as channel 890, but 890 isn't in the lineup, then we can get it added, because that means that WOW updated the lineup and didn't tell Tribune, and we have to "remind" them. You'd open a ticket saying "Channel 890 is in the WOW EPG, but not in the lineup. 890 is CBS Sports HD". If it's not listed on their website or printed material, but it is on the set top box EPG, then that's still fixable, because it just means that right hand and left hand aren't talking to each other. If it's truly a "wild" channel, and WOW won't confirm with Tribune that it's a real channel, then you're stuck, because it won't get added to the lineup unless WOW says that it belongs there. In that case you can try to find another lineup (lets say Comcast) in another zip code and setup that one lineup with just one channel in it so that you can get the schedule for that station. We're actively working on a new offering that gives us the capability of manipulating the channels so that a "wild" channel could get added, along with QAM tuning data. It's in open beta right now, but because it's an entirely different format (JSON), MediaPortal would need a new grabber. Discussion of the beta are at [URL='http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewforum.php?f=8'][U][COLOR=#0066cc]http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewforum.php?f=8[/COLOR][/U][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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