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thanks for the reply, that code is a basically the same as what the web converter gave me, but unfortunately it doesn't work

on the g_Player.PlayBackStart i get an underline and it tells me this is an event and it should be called with Raise event

also on the g_Player.StartedHandler(OnPlayBackStarted) i get an error telling me StartedHandler requires an AddressOf Arguement or lambda expression

i think the original code is pretty close to what i need i just cant figure out how to start the handler, but i keep getting the error about how it requires and AddressOf argument

thanks heeps for you help hopefully we can get it working, i know there is a way to do it, its just finding it