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<blockquote data-quote="Lehmden" data-source="post: 1176810" data-attributes="member: 109222"><p>4K did not mean encryption. All 4K material I've ever seen so far is without copy protection. 4K TV for example or streaming services. The UHD BluRay specs are finished, but there is not a single disk available today. The first disks and player are announced for April (an April fool???) And I doubt they ever will get a wide user base. The UHD BluRay is not compatible with average BluRay drives. So you need to buy another stand alone player and/or another optical disk drive for your PC. Aside this most of the big studios don't want to spend that much money on optical disk as most of the users don't like them that much. So you can expect a simple copy of 4K online media to a UHD BluRay with less comfort and more costs... If you ask me UHD BluRay is death before it was born. Not even the "parents" (the UHD BD consortium) believe it will make it to success.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is near to impossible as there are too much formats, containers and tools out there that did (and can) not have any copy protection mechanism... Most of the material not on optical drives did not and never will have copy protection because copy protection is enormously lowering the acceptance and for this the number of customers dramatically. You can install a copy protection only when it is available from the very first beginning of the specific media. As it was with DVD (until a 14 year old boy has "cracked" it a few days after launch) or with BluRay (that was cracked by SlySoft on the very first day the BluRay was launched)... But you can not "install" a copy protection mechanism long time after something is released... </p><p></p><p>Copy protection in general is completely useless (excerpt for the companies who sell the mechanism as they earn a giant amount of money with something that is completely useless) and the movie industry will learn this too, like the music industry had to learn the hard way.</p><p> </p><p>Music had copy protection until the music industry nearly dies completely. The very last audio CD I bought was the first with copy protection. A complete disaster. The sound was terrible and I needed to crack the copy protection to be able to playback the CD I've bought legally as my CD player could not play this CD, but my PC could copy it. So exactly the opposite of what should happen... I've swear to myself I never will buy a copy protected audio CD again. And I didn't...</p><p>This was 20 years ago and before the stupid "protection" I have bought 2 to 4 Cd a month. And I'm not the only one that did the same, so the music industry was short to death. As soon as the copy protection was history the music industry starts growing rapidly again. You download a mp3 or flac or whatever and only pay once but you can keep and play it as long and often as you want... It's only a matter of time until the video industry will come to the same result. It's the only way to survive in the long term. All media with heavy restrictions of usage are dead or bound to die.</p><p></p><p>But most users don't want to keep videos for a long time opposite to music that will be played over and over again. So TV and streaming services are the preferred transport vehicle... And in the long run the streaming services with their "flatrates" will succeed, I'm pretty sure. As long as you did have fast internet it's the easiest way to handle "your" media. This means: do not care about them at all, pay a monthly or annual fee and you have "your" collection everywhere in the whole world..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lehmden, post: 1176810, member: 109222"] 4K did not mean encryption. All 4K material I've ever seen so far is without copy protection. 4K TV for example or streaming services. The UHD BluRay specs are finished, but there is not a single disk available today. The first disks and player are announced for April (an April fool???) And I doubt they ever will get a wide user base. The UHD BluRay is not compatible with average BluRay drives. So you need to buy another stand alone player and/or another optical disk drive for your PC. Aside this most of the big studios don't want to spend that much money on optical disk as most of the users don't like them that much. So you can expect a simple copy of 4K online media to a UHD BluRay with less comfort and more costs... If you ask me UHD BluRay is death before it was born. Not even the "parents" (the UHD BD consortium) believe it will make it to success. This is near to impossible as there are too much formats, containers and tools out there that did (and can) not have any copy protection mechanism... Most of the material not on optical drives did not and never will have copy protection because copy protection is enormously lowering the acceptance and for this the number of customers dramatically. You can install a copy protection only when it is available from the very first beginning of the specific media. As it was with DVD (until a 14 year old boy has "cracked" it a few days after launch) or with BluRay (that was cracked by SlySoft on the very first day the BluRay was launched)... But you can not "install" a copy protection mechanism long time after something is released... Copy protection in general is completely useless (excerpt for the companies who sell the mechanism as they earn a giant amount of money with something that is completely useless) and the movie industry will learn this too, like the music industry had to learn the hard way. Music had copy protection until the music industry nearly dies completely. The very last audio CD I bought was the first with copy protection. A complete disaster. The sound was terrible and I needed to crack the copy protection to be able to playback the CD I've bought legally as my CD player could not play this CD, but my PC could copy it. So exactly the opposite of what should happen... I've swear to myself I never will buy a copy protected audio CD again. And I didn't... This was 20 years ago and before the stupid "protection" I have bought 2 to 4 Cd a month. And I'm not the only one that did the same, so the music industry was short to death. As soon as the copy protection was history the music industry starts growing rapidly again. You download a mp3 or flac or whatever and only pay once but you can keep and play it as long and often as you want... It's only a matter of time until the video industry will come to the same result. It's the only way to survive in the long term. All media with heavy restrictions of usage are dead or bound to die. But most users don't want to keep videos for a long time opposite to music that will be played over and over again. So TV and streaming services are the preferred transport vehicle... And in the long run the streaming services with their "flatrates" will succeed, I'm pretty sure. As long as you did have fast internet it's the easiest way to handle "your" media. This means: do not care about them at all, pay a monthly or annual fee and you have "your" collection everywhere in the whole world.. [/QUOTE]
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