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<blockquote data-quote="ziphnor" data-source="post: 111728" data-attributes="member: 14215"><p>Why? Without the handy support of microsoft, they might fear the mess it might create and instead use something simple like Watermarking which doesnt NEED any special software or simply give up on DRM. You keep assuming that DRM is a must.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If they have problem with it, they will. Just think of the Sony rootkit and the lawsuits against iTunes. Microsoft is helping make it easy use DRM instead of fighting it. Do you have any idea how much strange stuff you have to add to an OS to really protect media from being copied?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Im not saying they should switch to Linux, its sufficient to boycott the media itself, dont biy Bluray or HD-DVD and stay away from iTunes and similar.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Only in so far as it doesnt pose a problem for them. When they cant watch their HD-DVD, or cant copy their iTunes music to their MP3 player, then they DO get upset and start caring.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Try to imagine what would happen if Microsoft refused to add the necessary signed drivers and encrypted audio/video paths to the OS. Then a PC could not be a HDCP certified device and would be unable to play back HD-DVD or Bluray. Who would stand to lose from this? Do you think anyone would change OS to watch a HD-DVD, i dont think so. The HD-DVD / Bluray formats are vulnerable enough that something like 90% of all PCs being unable to play them at all would make the media companies think twice about their DRM system.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>DRM-free music need not be free as in free beer. Unauthorized distribution is illegal no matter if the original has DRM or not. They can keep their business model if they like, they should just stop selling inferior products. When you buy a CD you get a higher quality product with less restrictions than when you buy some 128kbps WMA with DRM online, and yet the price rarely reflects this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What does Open Source and patent systems has to do with DRM??</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have boycotted CDs and DVDs for years without any ill effects to me <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is not usually classified as DRM(or at least its not what i mean when i talk about DRM), its just standard encryption. No one is protesting against anyone encrypting sensitive data. Its when they give you the key to decrypt it and then try to take it away a bit later that its starts getting strange. And while it can be done somewhat successfully for music and video it is nowhere near safe enough to be of any use whatsoever for real confidential data. The whole idea of DRM is that you can give people some information and then take it back later/prevent it being copied. It makes very little sense unless you are going to go around banning cameras and mind-wiping people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ziphnor, post: 111728, member: 14215"] Why? Without the handy support of microsoft, they might fear the mess it might create and instead use something simple like Watermarking which doesnt NEED any special software or simply give up on DRM. You keep assuming that DRM is a must. If they have problem with it, they will. Just think of the Sony rootkit and the lawsuits against iTunes. Microsoft is helping make it easy use DRM instead of fighting it. Do you have any idea how much strange stuff you have to add to an OS to really protect media from being copied? Im not saying they should switch to Linux, its sufficient to boycott the media itself, dont biy Bluray or HD-DVD and stay away from iTunes and similar. Only in so far as it doesnt pose a problem for them. When they cant watch their HD-DVD, or cant copy their iTunes music to their MP3 player, then they DO get upset and start caring. Try to imagine what would happen if Microsoft refused to add the necessary signed drivers and encrypted audio/video paths to the OS. Then a PC could not be a HDCP certified device and would be unable to play back HD-DVD or Bluray. Who would stand to lose from this? Do you think anyone would change OS to watch a HD-DVD, i dont think so. The HD-DVD / Bluray formats are vulnerable enough that something like 90% of all PCs being unable to play them at all would make the media companies think twice about their DRM system. DRM-free music need not be free as in free beer. Unauthorized distribution is illegal no matter if the original has DRM or not. They can keep their business model if they like, they should just stop selling inferior products. When you buy a CD you get a higher quality product with less restrictions than when you buy some 128kbps WMA with DRM online, and yet the price rarely reflects this. What does Open Source and patent systems has to do with DRM?? I have boycotted CDs and DVDs for years without any ill effects to me :) This is not usually classified as DRM(or at least its not what i mean when i talk about DRM), its just standard encryption. No one is protesting against anyone encrypting sensitive data. Its when they give you the key to decrypt it and then try to take it away a bit later that its starts getting strange. And while it can be done somewhat successfully for music and video it is nowhere near safe enough to be of any use whatsoever for real confidential data. The whole idea of DRM is that you can give people some information and then take it back later/prevent it being copied. It makes very little sense unless you are going to go around banning cameras and mind-wiping people. [/QUOTE]
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