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<blockquote data-quote="ziphnor" data-source="post: 111769" data-attributes="member: 14215"><p>First off samuel, let me again apologize for accidentally messing with your previous post ;(</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They would have a pretty hard time of it. If you want to be *really* certain that uncompressed video/audio isnt captured you need to force certified drivers and have an encrypted audio/video path, that is hard to do unless you are microsoft.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because watermarking is a pretty good at keeping pe.ople from re-distributing what they buy, WITHOUT any hassle for the end user</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not sure what you mean by easy here, are you referring to implementing it or breaking it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In europe most CDs are not copy-protected and they must be specifically marked i believe. But i can see your point. But thats the nature of boycotts <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it would be very hard to make the PC 'secure' enough without microsofts support, so the only real option the media companies would have would be to either make a less secure implementation with bugs that would make consumers complain to THEM and not microsoft (and which could be easily circumvented, always nice), or they could give up on the PC platform altogether.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, i am saying that their business model is not necessarily threatened by selling DRM-free products. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For the most part i have no objection with capitalism, but i dont see the problem in selling DRM-free products while still being 'capitalistic' <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good question <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> There are some online stores that have a limited selection in watermarked (and otherwise DRM-free) MP3 files. In addition to them i also purchased alot from AllOfMP3.com while it was still legal here in Denmark. Otherwise i can borrow music at the library, both as CDs and DRM-ridden WMA files(which is luckily easily removed). Apart from that i already have a large CD collection and feel that most new music is pretty crappy <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As for DVD's, i have only boycott'ed buying them, i still rent DVDs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, then its DRM <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Still, most of the measures you mention can be circumvented to easily for it to be really useful, but i suppose it can prevent people from accidentally copying something against the company policy (ie to break it, you need to understand what it is <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ziphnor, post: 111769, member: 14215"] First off samuel, let me again apologize for accidentally messing with your previous post ;( They would have a pretty hard time of it. If you want to be *really* certain that uncompressed video/audio isnt captured you need to force certified drivers and have an encrypted audio/video path, that is hard to do unless you are microsoft. Because watermarking is a pretty good at keeping pe.ople from re-distributing what they buy, WITHOUT any hassle for the end user Not sure what you mean by easy here, are you referring to implementing it or breaking it? In europe most CDs are not copy-protected and they must be specifically marked i believe. But i can see your point. But thats the nature of boycotts :) I think it would be very hard to make the PC 'secure' enough without microsofts support, so the only real option the media companies would have would be to either make a less secure implementation with bugs that would make consumers complain to THEM and not microsoft (and which could be easily circumvented, always nice), or they could give up on the PC platform altogether. No, i am saying that their business model is not necessarily threatened by selling DRM-free products. For the most part i have no objection with capitalism, but i dont see the problem in selling DRM-free products while still being 'capitalistic' :) Good question :) There are some online stores that have a limited selection in watermarked (and otherwise DRM-free) MP3 files. In addition to them i also purchased alot from AllOfMP3.com while it was still legal here in Denmark. Otherwise i can borrow music at the library, both as CDs and DRM-ridden WMA files(which is luckily easily removed). Apart from that i already have a large CD collection and feel that most new music is pretty crappy :) As for DVD's, i have only boycott'ed buying them, i still rent DVDs. Okay, then its DRM :) Still, most of the measures you mention can be circumvented to easily for it to be really useful, but i suppose it can prevent people from accidentally copying something against the company policy (ie to break it, you need to understand what it is :) [/QUOTE]
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