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<blockquote data-quote="tbrg78" data-source="post: 960358" data-attributes="member: 131634"><p>Getting movie details scraped from imdb can surley be done with most of the scrapers available. Problems start if you aim for german movie descriptions, and if your scraper-thing gets precious information, but stores them somewhere in a database, where no complete export can be done from. Or when you just move any files around and the mediacenter/scraper-subsystem kicks off to rescrape already fetched information again and again. Overwriting your already picked cover, fanart whatsoever.. that's where it's getting real uncomfortable. And think about migrating from one mediacenter/movie-plugin to the next, problems will arise for sure.</p><p> </p><p>I think it could be as simple as some kind of zip-file or folder I put next to each movie. Any mediamanager or similar software could just put anything you scraped and gathered from the internet in there and let it be. There's normaly no need to scrape a movie x-times.. once I have all information I imagine to have some kind of vault for it. That mentioned zip-container or subdirectory should be the main place where to store and keep movie information. Not some database or some bulky xml-files. </p><p> </p><p>If I need to move files, or just want my friends to import my recordings, I'd like to copy 2 files or one extra folder for each movie and the mediasystem of my friend reads them in. Why does everybody need to scrape all over again ?! I know, there are ways to keep information side by side at the movie-files itself. That *.nfo-format e.g., but that's just a half baked thing, any cover/folderart.jpg is not part of it and the next Importer incapable of simply recognizing a "fanart.jpg".. and then it's "wtf?" again.</p><p> </p><p>You know MP3-Tags ?! Once they're set up, every player can show them. It seems never anybody thought about standard movie tags, including cover etc. ?!</p><p> </p><p>Multipart-File handling or DVD-Rips.. another point where most apps fail badly. God, how did I pull my hair when it came to VIDEO_TS.IFO files and stuff. Try to import an *.nfo complete movie set with MyFilms6, it won't do. Try to handle those filetypes with EmberMediaManager, which supports *.nfo by default and then import that into MovingPictures.. it won't do. It needs tweaking, reading, setting up, manual editing of filenames, foldernames and sometimes even taking care of some application to NOT touch your files ever again, else you start again from scratch, because it wipes of or just ignores your data already there.</p><p> </p><p>Even rather simple things as the "already watched"-tag cannot be saved at the movie itself. How stupid is that ?! MovingPictures always cleares the "watched"-information whener it imports a movie, which was already imported earlier (and might have been removed from the list, just because the files switched directories). I mean, that's what file-hashes are for.</p><p> </p><p>I'm kind of dissapointed at what all this feels like in everyday handling. Mediaportal and its plugins look nice if all is working and set up, but to ever get there is hard work. And don't ever touch a thing or think about moving around with your collection, you risk to ruine everything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tbrg78, post: 960358, member: 131634"] Getting movie details scraped from imdb can surley be done with most of the scrapers available. Problems start if you aim for german movie descriptions, and if your scraper-thing gets precious information, but stores them somewhere in a database, where no complete export can be done from. Or when you just move any files around and the mediacenter/scraper-subsystem kicks off to rescrape already fetched information again and again. Overwriting your already picked cover, fanart whatsoever.. that's where it's getting real uncomfortable. And think about migrating from one mediacenter/movie-plugin to the next, problems will arise for sure. I think it could be as simple as some kind of zip-file or folder I put next to each movie. Any mediamanager or similar software could just put anything you scraped and gathered from the internet in there and let it be. There's normaly no need to scrape a movie x-times.. once I have all information I imagine to have some kind of vault for it. That mentioned zip-container or subdirectory should be the main place where to store and keep movie information. Not some database or some bulky xml-files. If I need to move files, or just want my friends to import my recordings, I'd like to copy 2 files or one extra folder for each movie and the mediasystem of my friend reads them in. Why does everybody need to scrape all over again ?! I know, there are ways to keep information side by side at the movie-files itself. That *.nfo-format e.g., but that's just a half baked thing, any cover/folderart.jpg is not part of it and the next Importer incapable of simply recognizing a "fanart.jpg".. and then it's "wtf?" again. You know MP3-Tags ?! Once they're set up, every player can show them. It seems never anybody thought about standard movie tags, including cover etc. ?! Multipart-File handling or DVD-Rips.. another point where most apps fail badly. God, how did I pull my hair when it came to VIDEO_TS.IFO files and stuff. Try to import an *.nfo complete movie set with MyFilms6, it won't do. Try to handle those filetypes with EmberMediaManager, which supports *.nfo by default and then import that into MovingPictures.. it won't do. It needs tweaking, reading, setting up, manual editing of filenames, foldernames and sometimes even taking care of some application to NOT touch your files ever again, else you start again from scratch, because it wipes of or just ignores your data already there. Even rather simple things as the "already watched"-tag cannot be saved at the movie itself. How stupid is that ?! MovingPictures always cleares the "watched"-information whener it imports a movie, which was already imported earlier (and might have been removed from the list, just because the files switched directories). I mean, that's what file-hashes are for. I'm kind of dissapointed at what all this feels like in everyday handling. Mediaportal and its plugins look nice if all is working and set up, but to ever get there is hard work. And don't ever touch a thing or think about moving around with your collection, you risk to ruine everything. [/QUOTE]
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