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<blockquote data-quote="tbrg78" data-source="post: 960515" data-attributes="member: 131634"><p>@<a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/members/tld.59059/" target="_blank">TLD</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p>I kind of disagree.. o) Let there be just one extendable database and every plugin should be pleased. In case of extended information, "just" add another column to that movie-table, so to say. What i still dislike is, that there is no straight connection betweend files on harddisc and that database. Whenever you move your files around or rename a movie-folder.. things won't do anymore. I'd like to mention those IDv4 MP3-Tags again.. they support any kind of extended information, but even the simplest mp3-player is still getting base-information of that music file.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes, i can do that. But if i plan to install XBMC the next day.. will that backup restore there, i doubt it.. o)</p><p>I just ran AntMovieCatalog for the first time and tried to import the xml-database, which AMCUpdater creates and MyFilms6 uses as well. And guess what, 40% of the movies now miss their coverart (seems to be related to relative vs. absolut paths btw.). But that's the pain I speak about and that's one corner of many, where I miss that bit of multi-plattform/application interoperability. I don't blame mediaportal, don't get me wrong. I miss connectivity and ease of use in general. I expected that collecting and watching movies with a mediacenter, is as easy as driving a car - once you know the basics. But it's not, it takes half a year to get into that mediacenter system + media manager and all its bits.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yep, that's the way to go. Information hunting.. and that's part of my writing here. A regular user coming round the corner installing mp with that skin and that plugin is going to get in trouble. And in case he owns an already nice database of his movies, he's not going to get that straight into mp or any other mediacenter.</p><p> </p><p>@<a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/members/kiwijunglist.76888/" target="_blank">kiwijunglist</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Online services bring in another dependency, I'd rather go without them. I had a quick google search, showing me several issues with that integration, so this seems to be another can of worms.. o) But thanks for giving directions regarding this. I have a last.fm account and had some tests with music some weeks ago. I wasn't really satisfied with what it offers and I'm afraid that's the same with follw and trakt, but sure.. I shall try that though.</p><p>Idea: WebService interface for MP to use my already running media server and serve/sync watch-status between android-equipment and other players myself ?!.. o)</p><p> </p><p>@<a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/members/scott_mckenzie.122101/" target="_blank">scott_mckenzie</a></p><p></p><p>Yep, i used MS mediacenter before, an no - i'm new to mediaportal, don't know what it looked like some years ago.</p><p>MS Mediacenter is a toy, it always crashes whenever i try to add my music or pictures to it. WMP11 the same. Maybe i was a bit unclear with my sentence and that "missing team work", I miss standards! I think mediaportal is one kind of an unique project, for sure. What it offers is great in comparison to some other systems, as well. But i cannot help thinking, that it's still a mess with movies, their formats and handling their meta-information.</p><p> </p><p>The Apple *.m4v format is the only one known to me, which carries at least some kind of "coverart" with it. I'd like movie-files to be as well supported as ZIP, MP3, JPG, PNG and whatelse is around. Since 15-20 years a snapshot taken with even the cheapest digital camera stores EXIF information + thumbnail for instance. A Zip file can be read by any operation system i've ever used. So what's the reason playing movies and handling their information needs dozens of scrapers, codecs and software suites, all handling that data in a different way?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Sorry for bringing my 20 years of experience in, just wanted to point out, that this stuff is way to hard to handle for the average computer guy or anyones girlfriend, you know ?!.. o) Imagine I had a family, I wouldn't be able to use mediaportal, because of lacking time tinkering around with it.</p><p>I'll see what I can do to give a supporting hand to the developers. Getting into new projects is always a challenge, and people not always like being helped by some guy coming round the corner, telling what's to be done next.. Hope you understand what i mean.. o)</p><p> </p><p>Perhaps my demands are just to high ?! On the other hand - come on!.. We live in 2013 now, computers being around for 30 years in anyones home, we fly to mars and moon.. Still we fight with filesystem structures, *.nfo-files, missing movie-details, crashing media applications, updating scraper scripts, xml-files belonging to popular plugins carrying no namespace and posting threads like this.. o)</p><p>Efforts should be more focused to get some standards on their way, instead of every plugin/mediasystem developer cooking its own soup over and over again.</p><p> </p><p>Thank you for taking your time, it helps me to speak about it.. o)</p><p>I enjoyed your replys.. o) Have a nice weekend!</p><p>Rob.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tbrg78, post: 960515, member: 131634"] @[URL='https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/members/tld.59059/']TLD[/URL] I kind of disagree.. o) Let there be just one extendable database and every plugin should be pleased. In case of extended information, "just" add another column to that movie-table, so to say. What i still dislike is, that there is no straight connection betweend files on harddisc and that database. Whenever you move your files around or rename a movie-folder.. things won't do anymore. I'd like to mention those IDv4 MP3-Tags again.. they support any kind of extended information, but even the simplest mp3-player is still getting base-information of that music file. Yes, i can do that. But if i plan to install XBMC the next day.. will that backup restore there, i doubt it.. o) I just ran AntMovieCatalog for the first time and tried to import the xml-database, which AMCUpdater creates and MyFilms6 uses as well. And guess what, 40% of the movies now miss their coverart (seems to be related to relative vs. absolut paths btw.). But that's the pain I speak about and that's one corner of many, where I miss that bit of multi-plattform/application interoperability. I don't blame mediaportal, don't get me wrong. I miss connectivity and ease of use in general. I expected that collecting and watching movies with a mediacenter, is as easy as driving a car - once you know the basics. But it's not, it takes half a year to get into that mediacenter system + media manager and all its bits. Yep, that's the way to go. Information hunting.. and that's part of my writing here. A regular user coming round the corner installing mp with that skin and that plugin is going to get in trouble. And in case he owns an already nice database of his movies, he's not going to get that straight into mp or any other mediacenter. @[URL='https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/members/kiwijunglist.76888/']kiwijunglist[/URL] Online services bring in another dependency, I'd rather go without them. I had a quick google search, showing me several issues with that integration, so this seems to be another can of worms.. o) But thanks for giving directions regarding this. I have a last.fm account and had some tests with music some weeks ago. I wasn't really satisfied with what it offers and I'm afraid that's the same with follw and trakt, but sure.. I shall try that though. Idea: WebService interface for MP to use my already running media server and serve/sync watch-status between android-equipment and other players myself ?!.. o) @[URL='https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/members/scott_mckenzie.122101/']scott_mckenzie[/URL] Yep, i used MS mediacenter before, an no - i'm new to mediaportal, don't know what it looked like some years ago. MS Mediacenter is a toy, it always crashes whenever i try to add my music or pictures to it. WMP11 the same. Maybe i was a bit unclear with my sentence and that "missing team work", I miss standards! I think mediaportal is one kind of an unique project, for sure. What it offers is great in comparison to some other systems, as well. But i cannot help thinking, that it's still a mess with movies, their formats and handling their meta-information. The Apple *.m4v format is the only one known to me, which carries at least some kind of "coverart" with it. I'd like movie-files to be as well supported as ZIP, MP3, JPG, PNG and whatelse is around. Since 15-20 years a snapshot taken with even the cheapest digital camera stores EXIF information + thumbnail for instance. A Zip file can be read by any operation system i've ever used. So what's the reason playing movies and handling their information needs dozens of scrapers, codecs and software suites, all handling that data in a different way? Sorry for bringing my 20 years of experience in, just wanted to point out, that this stuff is way to hard to handle for the average computer guy or anyones girlfriend, you know ?!.. o) Imagine I had a family, I wouldn't be able to use mediaportal, because of lacking time tinkering around with it. I'll see what I can do to give a supporting hand to the developers. Getting into new projects is always a challenge, and people not always like being helped by some guy coming round the corner, telling what's to be done next.. Hope you understand what i mean.. o) Perhaps my demands are just to high ?! On the other hand - come on!.. We live in 2013 now, computers being around for 30 years in anyones home, we fly to mars and moon.. Still we fight with filesystem structures, *.nfo-files, missing movie-details, crashing media applications, updating scraper scripts, xml-files belonging to popular plugins carrying no namespace and posting threads like this.. o) Efforts should be more focused to get some standards on their way, instead of every plugin/mediasystem developer cooking its own soup over and over again. Thank you for taking your time, it helps me to speak about it.. o) I enjoyed your replys.. o) Have a nice weekend! Rob. [/QUOTE]
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