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<blockquote data-quote="jcee" data-source="post: 181913" data-attributes="member: 10506"><p>hey guys, I got across this thread one more time.. </p><p></p><p>I had a Windows machine running for almost 2 yéars now for HTPC. I used MP all the way, and I am aware that it is still under development.. But I have so much trouble with it... !!</p><p></p><p>I often asked this forum for help and I am (too) often pointed to Windows problems. 8Driver issues, DX9 issues, Board drivers, codecs etc...). </p><p>I have rebuild my HTPC many times with 3 different DVB cards, two gfx cards, a very expensive fan controller and the big silverstone LC13 case I have still is audible.. (tried undervolting, cool and quite etc..)</p><p>I did so many registry hacks I cannot count, also did I reinstall quite a couple of times and only put the neccesary software on the box, also disabled all unwanted services etc...</p><p></p><p>I can tell you - and that is the experience of a colleague too - I have not yet reached the state of a 99,8% working system. 99.8% means to my that it will run for ONE month without stuttering, slowing down, and fast response times. </p><p>Often when we want to watch TV, we turn that box on and my girlfriend is zapping TV, it is slowly and not smooth.. I do not know what to tell her. As I have already excahnged board+gfx+tv cards and played around too much with patches/codecs/fixes.. I cannot tell her "I will go the store and buy a new piece of equipment and all trouble is gone.."</p><p></p><p>So what am I gone do now?!</p><p></p><p>I do want to complain about MP and the people here. it is fabulous work been done here.. not questioning at all. </p><p></p><p>But when I read all the topics here, I understand that MP is 10% complicated but getting a Windows system in place is 90% complicated.. </p><p></p><p>I somewhere here already raised the question here if Windows is really is the first choice as a basis?!</p><p></p><p>I mean, MS is developing a OS for thousands of hardware pieces from different vendors and even each vendor has its huge set of different driver versions... This multiplies to a set of combinations uncountable...</p><p></p><p>Who can foresee and gurantee that it will work....?!</p><p></p><p>Maybe a little more closed system ist better choice?</p><p></p><p>This apple stuff really draws my intention. I bought a Apple Laptop (MacbookPro) on Ebay last weeks, just to find out myself what this is all about.. </p><p>I can tell you, (my personal opinion). Everything on this computer works like a charm!! All things happen smooth and without stuttering, the experience is lightyears beyond what I experience with Windows (and I use Windows professionally at work).</p><p></p><p>First I thought, "Err... all this fancy colourful animations... who needs this, its only using up resources..."</p><p>Then I loaded up Windows in a virtual machine, run Itunes+Photo application, the calendar and the webbrowser and had a look at the ressources: 400MB of 1,5GB main memory was left!!! Wowww..</p><p>CPU load similar.. </p><p></p><p>Guys, this seems to be much more like an efficient system design.. I talked to my colleague who has meanwhile given up on his TVcentral and PC and had turned to Apple also.. </p><p></p><p>He bought the Eyetv software and hardware and is telling me that he is experiencing a completly new HTPC feeeling. Everything runs smooths and stable. He did not had to reboot for a month, TV has never freezed or stuttered and the channel switching is unrivaled ...</p><p></p><p>Ok, he admits that this system has not that much features as MP and TVcentral.. But it all just works.. even hibernation and waking up is no problem at all.. out-of-the-box..</p><p></p><p>From what I learned from my new Macbook Pro I can imagine what he is talking about.. </p><p></p><p>Maybe it is time to try something else?!</p><p></p><p>Did you guys, owning a Macminii, thought about using the Apple OSX and a mediacenter soluttion natively?! Or did you just stay with MP, why?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not sure if I will just bootcamp and MP in the end or the apple applications..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jcee, post: 181913, member: 10506"] hey guys, I got across this thread one more time.. I had a Windows machine running for almost 2 yéars now for HTPC. I used MP all the way, and I am aware that it is still under development.. But I have so much trouble with it... !! I often asked this forum for help and I am (too) often pointed to Windows problems. 8Driver issues, DX9 issues, Board drivers, codecs etc...). I have rebuild my HTPC many times with 3 different DVB cards, two gfx cards, a very expensive fan controller and the big silverstone LC13 case I have still is audible.. (tried undervolting, cool and quite etc..) I did so many registry hacks I cannot count, also did I reinstall quite a couple of times and only put the neccesary software on the box, also disabled all unwanted services etc... I can tell you - and that is the experience of a colleague too - I have not yet reached the state of a 99,8% working system. 99.8% means to my that it will run for ONE month without stuttering, slowing down, and fast response times. Often when we want to watch TV, we turn that box on and my girlfriend is zapping TV, it is slowly and not smooth.. I do not know what to tell her. As I have already excahnged board+gfx+tv cards and played around too much with patches/codecs/fixes.. I cannot tell her "I will go the store and buy a new piece of equipment and all trouble is gone.." So what am I gone do now?! I do want to complain about MP and the people here. it is fabulous work been done here.. not questioning at all. But when I read all the topics here, I understand that MP is 10% complicated but getting a Windows system in place is 90% complicated.. I somewhere here already raised the question here if Windows is really is the first choice as a basis?! I mean, MS is developing a OS for thousands of hardware pieces from different vendors and even each vendor has its huge set of different driver versions... This multiplies to a set of combinations uncountable... Who can foresee and gurantee that it will work....?! Maybe a little more closed system ist better choice? This apple stuff really draws my intention. I bought a Apple Laptop (MacbookPro) on Ebay last weeks, just to find out myself what this is all about.. I can tell you, (my personal opinion). Everything on this computer works like a charm!! All things happen smooth and without stuttering, the experience is lightyears beyond what I experience with Windows (and I use Windows professionally at work). First I thought, "Err... all this fancy colourful animations... who needs this, its only using up resources..." Then I loaded up Windows in a virtual machine, run Itunes+Photo application, the calendar and the webbrowser and had a look at the ressources: 400MB of 1,5GB main memory was left!!! Wowww.. CPU load similar.. Guys, this seems to be much more like an efficient system design.. I talked to my colleague who has meanwhile given up on his TVcentral and PC and had turned to Apple also.. He bought the Eyetv software and hardware and is telling me that he is experiencing a completly new HTPC feeeling. Everything runs smooths and stable. He did not had to reboot for a month, TV has never freezed or stuttered and the channel switching is unrivaled ... Ok, he admits that this system has not that much features as MP and TVcentral.. But it all just works.. even hibernation and waking up is no problem at all.. out-of-the-box.. From what I learned from my new Macbook Pro I can imagine what he is talking about.. Maybe it is time to try something else?! Did you guys, owning a Macminii, thought about using the Apple OSX and a mediacenter soluttion natively?! Or did you just stay with MP, why? I am not sure if I will just bootcamp and MP in the end or the apple applications.. [/QUOTE]
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