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<blockquote data-quote="chesh" data-source="post: 388096" data-attributes="member: 88249"><p>Ok, I've figured this all out and I'm going to write a little howto here. I have a HD-PVR and an HVR-1600. I've got the HD-PVR hooked up to the component outputs of a Comcast HD Digital Cable box and the HVR-1600 has both of it's tuners hooked up to the coax cable in my place (one for ATSC/clearQAM and the other for analog cable). Now, I'm going to start off that this is the method that worked best for me. If you have a different method that ended up working, I suggest you add it as an addendum to this post for others to learn from in the future as this was a giant pain in the butt to do. Once again, this is my setup for the above mentioned hardware, if you don't have a HD-PVR, some of this might not pertain to you and you might need to setup your SchedulesDirect another way. Also, these instructions are for the TVServer configureation and not MediaPortal. Anyway, on to the install instructions:</p><p></p><p>1. Download the SVN version of MediaPortal and TVServer3 for the HD-PVR <a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/general-talk-233/initial-support-hauppuage-hd-pvr-45382/" target="_blank">here</a>. (At the time of this writing the newest version was for SVN version 12/22/08. If the version has changed, this might change my instructions.)</p><p></p><p>2. Install and configure MediaPortal as you normally would. There's plenty of good guides on how to do this.</p><p></p><p>3. Install TVServer3.</p><p></p><p>4. Open up TVServer configuration. First thing you'll want to do is do a channel scan on your HVR-1600 on the ATSC/clearQAM side. Check the checkmark box that says you'll be looking for clearQAM instead of ATSC and switch the dropdown to QAM Standard and run your channel scan. Go play some video games, smoke a cig, goto a movie, whatever. This is going to take awhile.</p><p></p><p>5. Once all the scanning is completed, go into Channels and you'll see a ton of Unknown XXXXXX-XX channels. Here comes the PITA part. You'll need to click on the green dot next to the channel (Make sure to not click on the channel name as there's a weird bug in this section of the TVServer that if it goes to rename the channel and you just press enter to get out of renaming, the channel will save itself with no channel name at all). Once you have the first channel highlighted, click Preview. If it comes up Channel is Scrambled or Unable to Start Graph, delete the channel. If you actually come up with something on the channel you'll have to figure out what it is. There's 2 ways to go about this. If you have a 2nd TV and your HTPC is close to it, you can just preview the channel and try to figure out what channel it is on. Or, you can open <a href="http://tvlistings.aol.com/listings/state/city/provider?zipcode=&elicit=non_auth_location" target="_blank">AOL's TV listings</a> and try to hunt down the program on via the channels branding or what show is currently playing. Once you figured out what channel it is, go ahead and close the preview window and then click Edit to change the name of the channel. Name the channel something legible. I chose channel number and callsign.</p><p></p><p>6. Go through the painstaking process to name all of these channels. Delete any channels you don't plan on having in your lineup. Once done, click on the export button in the Channels window and save the file to your desktop. Call it clearQAM linup.xml or something that you'll recognize it by.</p><p></p><p>7. Uninstall TVServer. I do this to clean the database and start over from scratch. I don't want any of the clearQAM info in here yet. On that note, when uninstalling, make sure to answer yes to cleaning out the database.</p><p></p><p>8. Install the TVServer again. This time you want to setup your blasting for you cable box. I ended up installing the modified ServerBlaster plugin found <a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/newcomers-forum-240/using-hauppauge-ir-blaster-mp-49578/index2.html#post342913" target="_blank">here</a>, and activated it in the TVServer configuration. Now, something I noticed in my install is that my HVR-1600 ended up taking over blasting after I installed it (HD-PVR was the first card I had installed). You'll have to figure out using BlasterCFG.exe provided by the Hauppauge software as to which one it's currently blasting with. I suggest reading the forum for where the plugin came from for support.</p><p></p><p>9. Install the <a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/plugins-47/schedules-direct-us-canadian-mexico-epg-plugin-updated-10-01-2007-a-26951/" target="_blank">Schedules Direct plugin</a>. Make sure you have an account with SD and you've created a lineup on their website. Program in your necessary information into the plugin (username, password, and automatically download channel listing on next TVServer startup). </p><p></p><p>10. Restart the TVServer service by either rebooting your computer or Start --> Run --> services.msc and right clicking on the TVService and clicking Restart.</p><p></p><p>11. Watch the tv.log file and when it's completely done with downloading the channels and before it starts to download schedule information, you'll want to disable the SD plugin in TVServer, click Ok to exit and save your changes to TVServer and then stop the TVServer service. </p><p></p><p>12. Open back up TVServer Config and start the TVServer service if it asks.</p><p></p><p>13. Map all of the newly found channels to your HD-PVR.</p><p></p><p>14. Open up the analog input of the HVR-1600 and set connection type to Cable, set your country (these instructions are for the US), and leave radio sensitivity to Medium. Run a scan for channels.</p><p></p><p>15. Once that scan is done, go into Combination under Channels and combine everything from your HD-PVR to its equivalent that was found during the analog scan. If you had some channels you didn't want to combine, delete them now. (Ex. channels that you turned off in your SD lineup)</p><p></p><p>16. Open up the ATSC input of the HVR-1600 for channels scanning, checkmark that you want to search for clearQAM and not ATSC and run another scan using QAM Standard. Go do something else while this is going.</p><p></p><p>17. Ok, at this point you should have all your HD-PVR channels and your analog channels combined in the Channels listing and now a whole bunch of Unknown XXXXXX-XX channels. If your configuration is any different, you missed a step.</p><p></p><p>18. Open up the original exported channel list from step #6 with Excel. You'll want to open it in XML mode (I'll make this clearer when I get home tonight. Unfortunately, my remote desktop connection is down). Once the file is open, scroll to the right until you see a column heading of Frequency. Click on the drop down next to Frequency and scroll up a little bit in the list and select Sort Ascending. Now, you'll want to highlight the columns between the name of the channel column (about 7 columns to the left of Frequency) and the Unknown name that MP gave it (about 4 columns to the right of Frequency). When finished you should have the name of the channel you gave it right beside that Unknown XXXXXX-XX name that MP gave it. </p><p></p><p>19. Go through your Excel list and TVServer and name all your Unknown XXXXX-XX channels to the name you gave them earlier. Delete any Unknown or channels that you don't plan on matching that are left over. (Also, when renaming channels, see my note about renaming channels in step #5)</p><p></p><p>20. Go into Combinations under Channels again and combine all your newly renamed clearQAM channels with the HD-PVR.</p><p></p><p>21. Turn back on the SchedulesDirect plugin and let it download schedule information.</p><p></p><p>22. Go into MediaPortal and test.</p><p></p><p>Note: I ended up switching my card priority from HD-PVR, ATSC/clearQAM, analog to ATSC/clearQAM, HD-PVR, analog after this whole setup due to the fact that I wanted it to record on the card that had access to some HD channels, but not all of them first and be able to leave open my HD-PVR which can receive all the channels.</p><p></p><p>After my whole channel lineup was named and combined, everything was in numerical order in the TV Guide, all channels had information, and I can record on 3 different channels at once (as long as the channels were within the ranges of the cards for being available). Yes, moab, this is a true Dual Tuner card!!! W00T!!! </p><p></p><p>I hope this helps someone in the future trying to do a multi-card setup with clearQAM. If you have any questions or comments about this, post them here or send me a private message and I'll try to help. I'll be updating this howto as time permits and info changes.</p><p></p><p>P.S. Moab: Mine came up with tons of scrambled channels too. Comcast is only required to provide channels in clearQAM format that you would be able to normally get OTA. That being said, they also don't have to make it easy to retrieve those channels either. I have a cable box and those channels are still scrambled for me too. I believe you'd need a cablecard capable tuner in order to get anything off of these channels.</p><p></p><p>P.P.S - To help find items on the clearQAM scan you can also get an idea of where you're going to find channels by using <a href="http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us" target="_blank">this</a> resource provided by SiliconDust. It might cut some time off your searching. It will give you the Major / Minor of where the channel is at, just not the frequency. Just a thought.</p><p></p><p>P.P.P.S - I was doing some thinking about this and if you don't have an HD-PVR, but you would like to use these setup instructions for some other device, you'd just setup the SD plugin for the appropriate info for the external device. I leave mine to SVHS1 due to it not making a difference when matching the channels to the HD-PVR. If, for instance, your main card was a DVB-S or Analog, you could just set the necessary settings there in the SD plugin to do the initial channel download and match them to the appropriate card. (Ex. set the default external device to Tuner.) The rest of the instructions should be pretty similar.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chesh, post: 388096, member: 88249"] Ok, I've figured this all out and I'm going to write a little howto here. I have a HD-PVR and an HVR-1600. I've got the HD-PVR hooked up to the component outputs of a Comcast HD Digital Cable box and the HVR-1600 has both of it's tuners hooked up to the coax cable in my place (one for ATSC/clearQAM and the other for analog cable). Now, I'm going to start off that this is the method that worked best for me. If you have a different method that ended up working, I suggest you add it as an addendum to this post for others to learn from in the future as this was a giant pain in the butt to do. Once again, this is my setup for the above mentioned hardware, if you don't have a HD-PVR, some of this might not pertain to you and you might need to setup your SchedulesDirect another way. Also, these instructions are for the TVServer configureation and not MediaPortal. Anyway, on to the install instructions: 1. Download the SVN version of MediaPortal and TVServer3 for the HD-PVR [URL="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/general-talk-233/initial-support-hauppuage-hd-pvr-45382/"]here[/URL]. (At the time of this writing the newest version was for SVN version 12/22/08. If the version has changed, this might change my instructions.) 2. Install and configure MediaPortal as you normally would. There's plenty of good guides on how to do this. 3. Install TVServer3. 4. Open up TVServer configuration. First thing you'll want to do is do a channel scan on your HVR-1600 on the ATSC/clearQAM side. Check the checkmark box that says you'll be looking for clearQAM instead of ATSC and switch the dropdown to QAM Standard and run your channel scan. Go play some video games, smoke a cig, goto a movie, whatever. This is going to take awhile. 5. Once all the scanning is completed, go into Channels and you'll see a ton of Unknown XXXXXX-XX channels. Here comes the PITA part. You'll need to click on the green dot next to the channel (Make sure to not click on the channel name as there's a weird bug in this section of the TVServer that if it goes to rename the channel and you just press enter to get out of renaming, the channel will save itself with no channel name at all). Once you have the first channel highlighted, click Preview. If it comes up Channel is Scrambled or Unable to Start Graph, delete the channel. If you actually come up with something on the channel you'll have to figure out what it is. There's 2 ways to go about this. If you have a 2nd TV and your HTPC is close to it, you can just preview the channel and try to figure out what channel it is on. Or, you can open [URL="http://tvlistings.aol.com/listings/state/city/provider?zipcode=&elicit=non_auth_location"]AOL's TV listings[/URL] and try to hunt down the program on via the channels branding or what show is currently playing. Once you figured out what channel it is, go ahead and close the preview window and then click Edit to change the name of the channel. Name the channel something legible. I chose channel number and callsign. 6. Go through the painstaking process to name all of these channels. Delete any channels you don't plan on having in your lineup. Once done, click on the export button in the Channels window and save the file to your desktop. Call it clearQAM linup.xml or something that you'll recognize it by. 7. Uninstall TVServer. I do this to clean the database and start over from scratch. I don't want any of the clearQAM info in here yet. On that note, when uninstalling, make sure to answer yes to cleaning out the database. 8. Install the TVServer again. This time you want to setup your blasting for you cable box. I ended up installing the modified ServerBlaster plugin found [URL="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/newcomers-forum-240/using-hauppauge-ir-blaster-mp-49578/index2.html#post342913"]here[/URL], and activated it in the TVServer configuration. Now, something I noticed in my install is that my HVR-1600 ended up taking over blasting after I installed it (HD-PVR was the first card I had installed). You'll have to figure out using BlasterCFG.exe provided by the Hauppauge software as to which one it's currently blasting with. I suggest reading the forum for where the plugin came from for support. 9. Install the [URL="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/plugins-47/schedules-direct-us-canadian-mexico-epg-plugin-updated-10-01-2007-a-26951/"]Schedules Direct plugin[/URL]. Make sure you have an account with SD and you've created a lineup on their website. Program in your necessary information into the plugin (username, password, and automatically download channel listing on next TVServer startup). 10. Restart the TVServer service by either rebooting your computer or Start --> Run --> services.msc and right clicking on the TVService and clicking Restart. 11. Watch the tv.log file and when it's completely done with downloading the channels and before it starts to download schedule information, you'll want to disable the SD plugin in TVServer, click Ok to exit and save your changes to TVServer and then stop the TVServer service. 12. Open back up TVServer Config and start the TVServer service if it asks. 13. Map all of the newly found channels to your HD-PVR. 14. Open up the analog input of the HVR-1600 and set connection type to Cable, set your country (these instructions are for the US), and leave radio sensitivity to Medium. Run a scan for channels. 15. Once that scan is done, go into Combination under Channels and combine everything from your HD-PVR to its equivalent that was found during the analog scan. If you had some channels you didn't want to combine, delete them now. (Ex. channels that you turned off in your SD lineup) 16. Open up the ATSC input of the HVR-1600 for channels scanning, checkmark that you want to search for clearQAM and not ATSC and run another scan using QAM Standard. Go do something else while this is going. 17. Ok, at this point you should have all your HD-PVR channels and your analog channels combined in the Channels listing and now a whole bunch of Unknown XXXXXX-XX channels. If your configuration is any different, you missed a step. 18. Open up the original exported channel list from step #6 with Excel. You'll want to open it in XML mode (I'll make this clearer when I get home tonight. Unfortunately, my remote desktop connection is down). Once the file is open, scroll to the right until you see a column heading of Frequency. Click on the drop down next to Frequency and scroll up a little bit in the list and select Sort Ascending. Now, you'll want to highlight the columns between the name of the channel column (about 7 columns to the left of Frequency) and the Unknown name that MP gave it (about 4 columns to the right of Frequency). When finished you should have the name of the channel you gave it right beside that Unknown XXXXXX-XX name that MP gave it. 19. Go through your Excel list and TVServer and name all your Unknown XXXXX-XX channels to the name you gave them earlier. Delete any Unknown or channels that you don't plan on matching that are left over. (Also, when renaming channels, see my note about renaming channels in step #5) 20. Go into Combinations under Channels again and combine all your newly renamed clearQAM channels with the HD-PVR. 21. Turn back on the SchedulesDirect plugin and let it download schedule information. 22. Go into MediaPortal and test. Note: I ended up switching my card priority from HD-PVR, ATSC/clearQAM, analog to ATSC/clearQAM, HD-PVR, analog after this whole setup due to the fact that I wanted it to record on the card that had access to some HD channels, but not all of them first and be able to leave open my HD-PVR which can receive all the channels. After my whole channel lineup was named and combined, everything was in numerical order in the TV Guide, all channels had information, and I can record on 3 different channels at once (as long as the channels were within the ranges of the cards for being available). Yes, moab, this is a true Dual Tuner card!!! W00T!!! I hope this helps someone in the future trying to do a multi-card setup with clearQAM. If you have any questions or comments about this, post them here or send me a private message and I'll try to help. I'll be updating this howto as time permits and info changes. P.S. Moab: Mine came up with tons of scrambled channels too. Comcast is only required to provide channels in clearQAM format that you would be able to normally get OTA. That being said, they also don't have to make it easy to retrieve those channels either. I have a cable box and those channels are still scrambled for me too. I believe you'd need a cablecard capable tuner in order to get anything off of these channels. P.P.S - To help find items on the clearQAM scan you can also get an idea of where you're going to find channels by using [URL="http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us"]this[/URL] resource provided by SiliconDust. It might cut some time off your searching. It will give you the Major / Minor of where the channel is at, just not the frequency. Just a thought. P.P.P.S - I was doing some thinking about this and if you don't have an HD-PVR, but you would like to use these setup instructions for some other device, you'd just setup the SD plugin for the appropriate info for the external device. I leave mine to SVHS1 due to it not making a difference when matching the channels to the HD-PVR. If, for instance, your main card was a DVB-S or Analog, you could just set the necessary settings there in the SD plugin to do the initial channel download and match them to the appropriate card. (Ex. set the default external device to Tuner.) The rest of the instructions should be pretty similar. [/QUOTE]
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