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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1122361" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Hello Ferry</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, TV Server does not scan with every possible combination. That would take a _very_ long time (many hours). It would also be error prone because some tuners auto-detect settings (eg. modulation, pilot tones, roll off factor) while other tuners do not. If a tuner with auto-detection is used for scanning then it can result in creation of incorrect tuning details that can't be tuned by other tuners (tuners which don't support auto-detection).</p><p></p><p>In my opinion to take longer for scanning or to create tuning details that only work for some tuners would be _far_ more user unfriendly than the current situation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Never? That's a really big word. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>We have no control over the actual satellite (transponder) list data. That data is kindly provided by <a href="http://www.fastsatfinder.com/" target="_blank">FastSatFinder</a>. So, if the transponder definitions are wrong or incomplete then please report problems to them.</p><p></p><p>Note: in case you were wondering, we don't automatically update the satellite list because that would overwrite peoples' private customisations. I'd hope you don't find it too hard to click one button to update before scanning.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't understand why any of this should be required if you click "update satellite list" and then "scan for channels".</p><p>I also don't understand how any of this is connected to the topic (automatic deletion of channels... or not re-adding channels that have been deleted).</p><p></p><p>Yes editing channels is complex, but it is expected that 99.99% of TV Server users would never have to use that function. Nevertheless, if you would like to suggest some specific improvements then I'd be happy to listen. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Huh, I'm confused! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p>First, TV Server <strong><em>does</em></strong> automatically create mappings when scanning.</p><p>Second, how is this connected to the topic? (If you have feedback about different issues/features then best to start a separate thread.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is possible with TVE 3.5.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, I understand this problem... and it will be solved with TVE 3.5. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Briefly:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">All channels with satellite tuning details will automatically be mapped to all satellite tuners (same for DVB-C, DVB-T/T2 etc. tuning details and tuners). Unmapping can be done manually.<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A new "mapping" will be created for satellites and satellite tuners. This enables you to configure the mapping at the satellite level rather than the channel level. So for example, you can do exactly what you said: tuners 1 and 2 can receive 19.2 and 23.5 while tuner 3 can only receive 28.2. It will take only 30 seconds to configure. Note: this mapping will also allow you to configure tuners to use different LNB or DiSEqC settings to receive the same satellite (currently not possible).</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p>Problem: rescanning can take quite a long time. Also, we can't tell if the channel can't be received due to atmospheric conditions, disconnected cable, tuner problem, broadcaster problem... etc. (in which case rescanning is actually unnecessary).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1122361, member: 82144"] Hello Ferry No, TV Server does not scan with every possible combination. That would take a _very_ long time (many hours). It would also be error prone because some tuners auto-detect settings (eg. modulation, pilot tones, roll off factor) while other tuners do not. If a tuner with auto-detection is used for scanning then it can result in creation of incorrect tuning details that can't be tuned by other tuners (tuners which don't support auto-detection). In my opinion to take longer for scanning or to create tuning details that only work for some tuners would be _far_ more user unfriendly than the current situation. Never? That's a really big word. :) We have no control over the actual satellite (transponder) list data. That data is kindly provided by [URL='http://www.fastsatfinder.com/']FastSatFinder[/URL]. So, if the transponder definitions are wrong or incomplete then please report problems to them. Note: in case you were wondering, we don't automatically update the satellite list because that would overwrite peoples' private customisations. I'd hope you don't find it too hard to click one button to update before scanning. I don't understand why any of this should be required if you click "update satellite list" and then "scan for channels". I also don't understand how any of this is connected to the topic (automatic deletion of channels... or not re-adding channels that have been deleted). Yes editing channels is complex, but it is expected that 99.99% of TV Server users would never have to use that function. Nevertheless, if you would like to suggest some specific improvements then I'd be happy to listen. :) Huh, I'm confused! :S First, TV Server [B][I]does[/I][/B] automatically create mappings when scanning. Second, how is this connected to the topic? (If you have feedback about different issues/features then best to start a separate thread.) This is possible with TVE 3.5. Okay, I understand this problem... and it will be solved with TVE 3.5. :) Briefly: [LIST] [*]All channels with satellite tuning details will automatically be mapped to all satellite tuners (same for DVB-C, DVB-T/T2 etc. tuning details and tuners). Unmapping can be done manually. [*]A new "mapping" will be created for satellites and satellite tuners. This enables you to configure the mapping at the satellite level rather than the channel level. So for example, you can do exactly what you said: tuners 1 and 2 can receive 19.2 and 23.5 while tuner 3 can only receive 28.2. It will take only 30 seconds to configure. Note: this mapping will also allow you to configure tuners to use different LNB or DiSEqC settings to receive the same satellite (currently not possible). [/LIST] Problem: rescanning can take quite a long time. Also, we can't tell if the channel can't be received due to atmospheric conditions, disconnected cable, tuner problem, broadcaster problem... etc. (in which case rescanning is actually unnecessary). [/QUOTE]
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