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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 791669" data-attributes="member: 82144"><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />I do fully admit that my opinions about this are quite strong. I hold this opinion for two reasons:1. I think your setup is out of the ordinary, and your expectations are quite high (just being honest - no offense intended).2. TV Server should do better.The second reason is my primary reason. SD does a reasonable job at helping you get the HD-PVR set up, but it is TV Server that should allow you to automate the creation of channels for capture inputs.I'm working on something for this already as I mentioned. My approach will allow people to enter the names and channel numbers of each of their channels into a grid list. There'll be access to all the parameters for a regular analog tuning detail - these parameters will be set for all the channels in the list. I'm also going to support automating the channel details entry by "importing" an XMLTV file. In time that could possibly be extended to support other sources like SD. It would still be a little tedious to enter the channel names and numbers, but not half so tedious as it is now, and incredibly easy if you have an XMLTV file.For some people (I'm hoping for the majority) that will be perfect.For you I guess that approach is not as attractive as it might be since there won't be any immediate support for automatically getting the channel names and numbers from SD. However you have alternatives like mc2xml that would hopefully give you an accurate channel lineup. Also, because XMLTV files can be edited in a text editor you can make your own XMLTV file relatively easily. The only other thing you'd have to do would be combining the channels with the HDHomeRun and [optionally] analog tuner sources. Assuming you name your channels correctly, SD linking should be a breeze.Because if TV Server already has the channels then SD assumes that they have been scanned in by TV Server and that tuning details are complete and correct. Adding the tuning details to existing analog channels may cause problems. I've explained this before, but I think you should actually try this so you understand exactly what I mean.1. Pick any random analog cable channel that you have scanned in with one of the Adaptec tuners.2. Add another analog tuning detail that will work for the HD-PVR (ie. set the channel number and crossbar video and audio sources etc.).3. Ensure the channel is mapped to both Adaptec tuners and the HD-PVR.4. Go to the manual control section of TV Server configuration.5. Attempt to tune the channel with the HD-PVR.6. Attempt to tune the channel with one of the Adaptec tuners.What is the result?For the Adaptec tuner:It depends on which tuning detail it tries first. If it tries the correct tuning detail then it should work straight off the bat. If it tries the wrong one then it *might* gracefully fail. If the channel number is a high logical channel number (like 600 or something) that doesn't map to a real physical channel allocation then there's no telling what will happen. The tuner driver might bork itself. It might tune the wrong channel. It might tune something different (you should check this if possible). If that first problem isn't too bad then it becomes a question of whether TV Server is smart enough to try the next analog tuning detail. *If* it does then I'd expect that tuning attempt to succeed.For the HD-PVR:It depends on which tuning detail it tries first. If it tries the correct tuning detail then it should work straight off the bat. If it tries the wrong one then the driver may have a meltdown when it tries to switch to the tuner input on the crossbar, or it could simply blast the STB to the wrong channel. The tuning attempt may fail in the first case and *might* fall back to the correct tuning detail as described above, and in the second case TV Server hasn't got a hope of knowing that something went wrong (ie. the wrong channel was blasted).So to summarise: there is a fundamental conflict between having the analog cable channels mapped to the Adaptec tuners as well as the HD-PVR. That is why SD should not do what you're suggesting. In my opinion causing problems that can be fixed is far worse than making setup slightly faster/easier for a somewhat unusual setup (again, no offense intended).Note:1. In the above scenario I've assumed that the STB logical channel numbers (the ones that you blast) don't match the physical channel numbers. If they did then this whole discussion might be a moot point as the Adaptec tuning details *might* work for the HD-PVR too. It depends on what the HD-PVR driver does when instructed to switch to the tuner input. If it ignores it then fine - SD doesn't need to create tuning details.2. I've ignored the case where SD creates an analog tuning detail for a digital channel. Theoretically this won't cause problems, and it would help in the case of your HDHomeRun channels. Technically it is still incorrect.From my perspective there are very few situations where it could be considered an advantage, and even in your own situatioin it may cause problems (as described in my example above).Yes, TV Server has a mapping. The link is against the externalId column in the database Channel table, not in an XML file. If you're not comfortable editing the database contents then you also could <a href="http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/14_Import_Export_Channels" target="_blank">export your channel list</a>, manually tweak the XML, delete your channels, and then reimport it and re-link the channels to the tuning details. Note that I don't think SD handles providing guide information to multiple channels that have the same externalId.mm</blockquote>

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