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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 674687" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Hi ce6at</p><p></p><p>Thanks once again for the screenshots and logs! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Bagal is right. The reason TV failed is that you don't have any software encoders installed. Nobody (Intervideo/Corel, Cyberlink, Mainconcept etc.) seems to sell reasonably priced software encoders for consumers like us. They do sell them, but they are *very* expensive and come in production codec bundles or SDKs, or as part of large and expensive video editing applications. If you already have one of these large and expensive applications then you are fine, but for those of us that don't there are a few other ways to get what you need:</p><p>1. Install the ATI Avivo package. I think this is best option, however you *may* need to have an ATI card.</p><p>2. Install Windvr 3 (Google will help you find this).</p><p>3. Install Twinhan's DigitalTV application (Google will help you find this).</p><p>4. Install Pinnacle's TVCenter application. This can be found on there support site. Not really recommended.</p><p></p><p>Once you have installed one of these, please email me new logs.</p><p></p><p>[USER=27764]Bagal[/USER]:</p><p>Excellent advice <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Did you manage to grab logs in the evening? I'm going to need to figure out why the stream didn't start. It may be because of incompatible encoders. You may want to try another of the ones I listed above...</p><p></p><p>[Edit: just seen your logs! I'll take a look.]</p><p></p><p>Bagal,</p><p></p><p>Your logs only seem to contain one attempt to tune to an analog channel, and it looks like everything succeeded. I have to admit that I hadn't tried the svideo or composite inputs on my tuners (which, as I said earlier are very similar to Blackgold BGT3540s) before now. When I did, I only got 1 channel of sound and 1 channel of buzz. The video was black...</p><p></p><p>There could be specific reasons for that occurring on my system. Without getting into too much detail, I used to have another tuner which was also similar to the BGT3540. Through lack of knowledge and carelessness I managed to damage both satellite tuners <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />bitch<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. Anyhow, I eventually managed to get my current tuners from Ebay Germany. The only thing is that neither of them came with a remote or analog breakout cable. I still the the breakout cable from my old tuner, so I've plugged that in and assumed everything would work like it used to. Perhaps I'm wrong and the pin configuration is different...</p><p></p><p>There are a few things I'd suggest that you try:</p><p></p><p>1. When I add the svideo channels on my cards I get 2 svideo channels and 2 CVBS (composite) channels per card. You only have one card, but there should still be more than one svideo channel. I'd recommend trying *all* the inputs. Even the composite ones. If I'm going to try and fix this then it would be helpful to know what channels are added.</p><p>2. Try an actual analog TV or FM channel if possible and see if that works. If it does then we know that the issue is with the svideo/composite inputs. The root cause of something like that could possibly be crossbar related. I know of one minor compatibility issue with non-tuner inputs and the BGT3595 crossbars but I haven't done anything about it since I was focussed on getting tuner signals to work. Perhaps I need to try and address that...</p><p>3. I've found encoders to be quite temperamental. My system has four hybrid tuners. I've found that none of the encoders I have installed can be used more than once at a time (ie. I can't use the same encoder for 2 active tuners). I patched MediaPortal to fix that, however I've still got issues with the Pinnacle and Intervideo encoders. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.</p><p></p><p>Let me know how you get on...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 674687, member: 82144"] Hi ce6at Thanks once again for the screenshots and logs! :thx: Bagal is right. The reason TV failed is that you don't have any software encoders installed. Nobody (Intervideo/Corel, Cyberlink, Mainconcept etc.) seems to sell reasonably priced software encoders for consumers like us. They do sell them, but they are *very* expensive and come in production codec bundles or SDKs, or as part of large and expensive video editing applications. If you already have one of these large and expensive applications then you are fine, but for those of us that don't there are a few other ways to get what you need: 1. Install the ATI Avivo package. I think this is best option, however you *may* need to have an ATI card. 2. Install Windvr 3 (Google will help you find this). 3. Install Twinhan's DigitalTV application (Google will help you find this). 4. Install Pinnacle's TVCenter application. This can be found on there support site. Not really recommended. Once you have installed one of these, please email me new logs. [USER=27764]Bagal[/USER]: Excellent advice :) Did you manage to grab logs in the evening? I'm going to need to figure out why the stream didn't start. It may be because of incompatible encoders. You may want to try another of the ones I listed above... [Edit: just seen your logs! I'll take a look.] Bagal, Your logs only seem to contain one attempt to tune to an analog channel, and it looks like everything succeeded. I have to admit that I hadn't tried the svideo or composite inputs on my tuners (which, as I said earlier are very similar to Blackgold BGT3540s) before now. When I did, I only got 1 channel of sound and 1 channel of buzz. The video was black... There could be specific reasons for that occurring on my system. Without getting into too much detail, I used to have another tuner which was also similar to the BGT3540. Through lack of knowledge and carelessness I managed to damage both satellite tuners (:(:bitch:). Anyhow, I eventually managed to get my current tuners from Ebay Germany. The only thing is that neither of them came with a remote or analog breakout cable. I still the the breakout cable from my old tuner, so I've plugged that in and assumed everything would work like it used to. Perhaps I'm wrong and the pin configuration is different... There are a few things I'd suggest that you try: 1. When I add the svideo channels on my cards I get 2 svideo channels and 2 CVBS (composite) channels per card. You only have one card, but there should still be more than one svideo channel. I'd recommend trying *all* the inputs. Even the composite ones. If I'm going to try and fix this then it would be helpful to know what channels are added. 2. Try an actual analog TV or FM channel if possible and see if that works. If it does then we know that the issue is with the svideo/composite inputs. The root cause of something like that could possibly be crossbar related. I know of one minor compatibility issue with non-tuner inputs and the BGT3595 crossbars but I haven't done anything about it since I was focussed on getting tuner signals to work. Perhaps I need to try and address that... 3. I've found encoders to be quite temperamental. My system has four hybrid tuners. I've found that none of the encoders I have installed can be used more than once at a time (ie. I can't use the same encoder for 2 active tuners). I patched MediaPortal to fix that, however I've still got issues with the Pinnacle and Intervideo encoders. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Let me know how you get on... [/QUOTE]
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