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Hi Joz,
OK from you comments:
•Mother board: Tyan S5211G2NR i3210, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 ECC/Non-ECC 667/800 MHz, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £201.25 Inc VAT
I know it is expensive and that is probably due to the PCIeX slots etc. I do like the Tyan boards and have had several over the years. To put into perspective I built a dual Athlon MP 2.2Ghz system around 8 yrs ago on a Tyan tiger MPX board. This system is still alive today (kids use it now). It runs rings around most of my friends pc's but unfortunately the CPU's are that old they don't have the required instruction sets for modern software etc.
I may change to another Tyan though. Not sure about Gigabyte boards (never used them) used a lot of Asus boards although they are starting to grind on me with all there problems at the moment.
•CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo, E8500, Wolfdale Core, S775, 3.16GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB Cache, 9.5x Multiplier, Retail £156.23 Inc VAT
I understand your comment here and it would save a few ££. To be honest the nest one up is a LOT more ££ and that was the reason I went for this one. I will leave it as is for now
•Memory: 8GB (4x2GB) CorsairXMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, DHX £111.14 Inc VAT
I understand your comments here. The main reason for a lot of ram is that he may want to run some apps locally on this server. If he has multiple users he may need it. With memory being so cheap at the mo I just plumped for a good 8gb kit so that it is matched. May look into going 667 though
•Raid Controller: Highpoint RocketRaid RR3510LF PCI- E 4 Channel SATAII Raid Controller £321.70 Inc VAT
Looks like a good card with most of the work done on board. Also has support for the larger drives over 1Tb
•Hard Drives Raid x 4: 1TB Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200 rpm, 32MB Cache £83.55 Inc VAT x 4 = £334.20
I also have 4 1TB samsung spinpoints and also 4 500Gb spinpoints. Very quiet and had NO problems whatsoever with them. The WD Black look quite good, and a lot cheaper. Will go with those for now
•OS Solid State Disc: 80GB Intel X25-M, SSDSA2MH080G1, 2.5", SATA 300 MLC SSD, 250MB/s Read 70MB/s Write speed NCQ £285.17 Inc VAT
OK many thanks for saving me there. I don't know much about SSD drives and you have pointed me in the right direction. I know the intel drive above is smaller, but with a lot better controller it should be more than big enough.
•GPU: Palit 9500 GT SUPER, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 550MHz, 32 Cores, HDTV/ D-Sub/ DL DVI-I £43.67 Inc VAT
Just that I don't really like on board GPU's much. Never had good experiences with them and like separate. Also the Tyan board don't tend to have the GPU on board. (Some might but I haven't checked)
•PSU: 750W TX Corsair PSU, single 12V rail, quiet & cool 80%+ Eff £100.61 Inc VAT
The original one was 1100W he wont need that so I have gone for one a lot lower, lots of headroom though. I do prefer NOT to stress the PSU too much. I also like the modular corsairs as they are very quiet and have good efficiency. The 750w is a LOT cheaper though
Many thanks for the links to the computer places in Rotterdam area. Scan is UK based (where I live) I have used them for years and always give good service.
I have discussed of site backup with him and he is considering options at the moment so thanks for pointing that out.
quake2rambo
Yes the raid does require a x8 slot and the GPU a x16. The above Tyan board has 2 x16 slots so these can be used for the GPU and the Raid card. You can put a x8 card in a x16 slot you know just that the slot will run at x8 and not x16.
I dont want a board with HDMI out etc. Not required at all so a bit of a waste really.
Thanks for the input though. Makes sure I check the comatability
Well it is looking better than the first spec i put together. This really isn't about cost cutting, just putting something together that will be powerful enough to do the job required and expand.
If there are any potential bottleneck areas in the above spec I am all ears. The last thing I want is for my brother to ring me to say " this server is a pain, as soon as there are more than X users trying to access data it stalls and they have to wait etc"
So I will carry on looking into the motherboard and I thank you for your input so far
Hopefully I will nail down the spec over this weekend and my brother can then decide if he buys locally in Rotterdam, or buys from Scan in the UK and ships it over. Not sure which is best under the current climate?? I will leave that for him to look into lol.
Regards
Kev
OK from you comments:
•Mother board: Tyan S5211G2NR i3210, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 ECC/Non-ECC 667/800 MHz, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £201.25 Inc VAT
I know it is expensive and that is probably due to the PCIeX slots etc. I do like the Tyan boards and have had several over the years. To put into perspective I built a dual Athlon MP 2.2Ghz system around 8 yrs ago on a Tyan tiger MPX board. This system is still alive today (kids use it now). It runs rings around most of my friends pc's but unfortunately the CPU's are that old they don't have the required instruction sets for modern software etc.
I may change to another Tyan though. Not sure about Gigabyte boards (never used them) used a lot of Asus boards although they are starting to grind on me with all there problems at the moment.
•CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo, E8500, Wolfdale Core, S775, 3.16GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB Cache, 9.5x Multiplier, Retail £156.23 Inc VAT
I understand your comment here and it would save a few ££. To be honest the nest one up is a LOT more ££ and that was the reason I went for this one. I will leave it as is for now
•Memory: 8GB (4x2GB) CorsairXMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, DHX £111.14 Inc VAT
I understand your comments here. The main reason for a lot of ram is that he may want to run some apps locally on this server. If he has multiple users he may need it. With memory being so cheap at the mo I just plumped for a good 8gb kit so that it is matched. May look into going 667 though
•Raid Controller: Highpoint RocketRaid RR3510LF PCI- E 4 Channel SATAII Raid Controller £321.70 Inc VAT
Looks like a good card with most of the work done on board. Also has support for the larger drives over 1Tb
•Hard Drives Raid x 4: 1TB Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200 rpm, 32MB Cache £83.55 Inc VAT x 4 = £334.20
I also have 4 1TB samsung spinpoints and also 4 500Gb spinpoints. Very quiet and had NO problems whatsoever with them. The WD Black look quite good, and a lot cheaper. Will go with those for now
•OS Solid State Disc: 80GB Intel X25-M, SSDSA2MH080G1, 2.5", SATA 300 MLC SSD, 250MB/s Read 70MB/s Write speed NCQ £285.17 Inc VAT
OK many thanks for saving me there. I don't know much about SSD drives and you have pointed me in the right direction. I know the intel drive above is smaller, but with a lot better controller it should be more than big enough.
•GPU: Palit 9500 GT SUPER, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 550MHz, 32 Cores, HDTV/ D-Sub/ DL DVI-I £43.67 Inc VAT
Just that I don't really like on board GPU's much. Never had good experiences with them and like separate. Also the Tyan board don't tend to have the GPU on board. (Some might but I haven't checked)
•PSU: 750W TX Corsair PSU, single 12V rail, quiet & cool 80%+ Eff £100.61 Inc VAT
The original one was 1100W he wont need that so I have gone for one a lot lower, lots of headroom though. I do prefer NOT to stress the PSU too much. I also like the modular corsairs as they are very quiet and have good efficiency. The 750w is a LOT cheaper though
Many thanks for the links to the computer places in Rotterdam area. Scan is UK based (where I live) I have used them for years and always give good service.
I have discussed of site backup with him and he is considering options at the moment so thanks for pointing that out.
quake2rambo
It is required for future expansion to give better network throughput in the future.The S5211G2NR has 2 PCI-X slots on board. Do you really need this ?
The RocketRaid RR3510LF needs an 8x-PCI-E slot. So you need a mainboard with 1x PCI-E 16x for GPU and 1x 16x/8x PCI-E for your Raid-controller.
Yes the raid does require a x8 slot and the GPU a x16. The above Tyan board has 2 x16 slots so these can be used for the GPU and the Raid card. You can put a x8 card in a x16 slot you know just that the slot will run at x8 and not x16.
I would recommend you a board with built-in GPU, DVI and/ore HDMI-out
I dont want a board with HDMI out etc. Not required at all so a bit of a waste really.
Thanks for the input though. Makes sure I check the comatability
Well it is looking better than the first spec i put together. This really isn't about cost cutting, just putting something together that will be powerful enough to do the job required and expand.
If there are any potential bottleneck areas in the above spec I am all ears. The last thing I want is for my brother to ring me to say " this server is a pain, as soon as there are more than X users trying to access data it stalls and they have to wait etc"
So I will carry on looking into the motherboard and I thank you for your input so far
Hopefully I will nail down the spec over this weekend and my brother can then decide if he buys locally in Rotterdam, or buys from Scan in the UK and ships it over. Not sure which is best under the current climate?? I will leave that for him to look into lol.
Regards
Kev