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<blockquote data-quote="joz" data-source="post: 415956" data-attributes="member: 70244"><p>Hmm, so why not consider RAID-1 then? It's safer then RAID-5 for sure. Less CPU overhead and similar performance compared to RAID-5 HD htroughput.</p><p></p><p>As a backup plan I would consider off site storage. You know banks have these drop points? Something like that. What if the place burns down? I think your idea of a Local LAN backup is not that great and actually pretty unusual.</p><p></p><p>Now about your config, here's my feedback;</p><p></p><p><em><strong>•Mother board: Tyan S5211G2NR i3210, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 ECC/Non-ECC 667/800 MHz, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £201.25 Inc VAT</strong></em></p><p>Is this expensive or what? Crazy high prices, I'm not really into server boards or anything but doesn't let's say a Gigabyte mobo perform as well and is as durable?</p><p></p><p><strong><em>•CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo, E8500, Wolfdale Core, S775, 3.16GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB Cache, 9.5x Multiplier, Retail £156.23 Inc VAT</em></strong></p><p>Might consider a 8400, the extra 166MHz won't make that much a difference.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>•Memory: 8GB (4x2GB) CorsairXMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, DHX £111.14 Inc VAT</em></strong></p><p>Hmm, why so much memory? Wouldn't really need it if it's just file storage but ey memory is cheap. You can already pull off 667MHz memory if you're not overclocking this machine (which I guess you're not) because of the FSB of E8XXX CPUs which is 333MHz. Timings are good and you'll probably won't find mem that much cheaper when 667 compared to 800MHz</p><p></p><p><strong><em>•Raid Controller: Highpoint RocketRaid RR3510LF PCI- E 4 Channel SATAII Raid Controller £321.70 Inc VAT</em></strong></p><p>Dunno much about those, can't help you there.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>•Hard Drives Raid x 4: 1TB Samsung HE103UJ Spinpoint F1, 24x7,SATA 3Gb/s, 7200 rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ, RAID Class HDD £126.62 Inc VAT x 4 = £506.48</em></strong></p><p>You know I know people who say these drives are unreliable out here. I have 2 of those too (1x1TB and 1x640GB) never had issues though. Heard many failures on hardware.info (dutch hw forum).</p><p>Maybe consider WD green for efficient power usage? or WD black for performance?</p><p></p><p><strong><em>•OS Solid State Disc: OCZSSD2-1SLD120G - 120Gb OCZ Solid Series Solid State Drive (SSD) SATAII £241.44 Inc VAT</em></strong></p><p>DO NOT BUY THIS PLEASE!!!!</p><p>Buy a OCZ vertex instead or a intel M-80 or E-80 server equivalent. The Solid, Core and Apex series have serious small write performance issues!!!!</p><p>That's because of the jMicron controller that's been used with those products. The Vertex uses a new one from Idilynx, have one myself, performance quite good although doesn't beat Intel's</p><p></p><p><strong><em>•GPU: Palit 9500 GT SUPER, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 550MHz, 32 Cores, HDTV/ D-Sub/ DL DVI-I £43.67 Inc VAT</em></strong></p><p>Why not onboard?</p><p></p><p><strong><em>•PSU: Corsair HX Series PSU ATX, EPS12V, PS/2, Modular Power Supply £189.72 Inc VAT</em></strong></p><p>How much wattage is this? You could get away with a ~500W. It seems too expensive to me.</p><p></p><p>About the place to buy in Rotterdam, well it depends. You know, I know a lot about hardware but more about consumer parts, not so specific bussiness parts.</p><p>I think <a href="http://www.alternate.nl/html/index.html" target="_blank">alternate</a> is the best offline shop (also online) in the netherlands. <a href="http://azerty.nl/" target="_blank">Azerty</a> I think is a real good online alternative (also cheaper).</p><p>Both have the option to pre assemble the PC but you can also just buy parts.</p><p>I have not ever heard of any shop called scan.</p><p></p><p>About software RAID;</p><p></p><p>I do not see how this is more unreliable, it will take more CPU usage. The drivers might play a big part in it though! Poor driver support maybe means poor software raid (dunno, just guessing here). Doesn't have to apply to all configs.</p><p>There's no such thing really as Software or Hardware RAID. It's all software, just on different levels.</p><p>If you use a expansion card or onboard controllers it uses either the northbridge (onboard) to process it or the card which always has some sort of CPU on it, also some cache RAM most of the time.</p><p>That's why the last perform better. They are dedicated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joz, post: 415956, member: 70244"] Hmm, so why not consider RAID-1 then? It's safer then RAID-5 for sure. Less CPU overhead and similar performance compared to RAID-5 HD htroughput. As a backup plan I would consider off site storage. You know banks have these drop points? Something like that. What if the place burns down? I think your idea of a Local LAN backup is not that great and actually pretty unusual. Now about your config, here's my feedback; [I][B]•Mother board: Tyan S5211G2NR i3210, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 ECC/Non-ECC 667/800 MHz, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £201.25 Inc VAT[/B][/I][B][/B] Is this expensive or what? Crazy high prices, I'm not really into server boards or anything but doesn't let's say a Gigabyte mobo perform as well and is as durable? [B][I]•CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo, E8500, Wolfdale Core, S775, 3.16GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB Cache, 9.5x Multiplier, Retail £156.23 Inc VAT[/I][/B] Might consider a 8400, the extra 166MHz won't make that much a difference. [B][I]•Memory: 8GB (4x2GB) CorsairXMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, DHX £111.14 Inc VAT[/I][/B] Hmm, why so much memory? Wouldn't really need it if it's just file storage but ey memory is cheap. You can already pull off 667MHz memory if you're not overclocking this machine (which I guess you're not) because of the FSB of E8XXX CPUs which is 333MHz. Timings are good and you'll probably won't find mem that much cheaper when 667 compared to 800MHz [B][I]•Raid Controller: Highpoint RocketRaid RR3510LF PCI- E 4 Channel SATAII Raid Controller £321.70 Inc VAT[/I][/B] Dunno much about those, can't help you there. [B][I]•Hard Drives Raid x 4: 1TB Samsung HE103UJ Spinpoint F1, 24x7,SATA 3Gb/s, 7200 rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ, RAID Class HDD £126.62 Inc VAT x 4 = £506.48[/I][/B] You know I know people who say these drives are unreliable out here. I have 2 of those too (1x1TB and 1x640GB) never had issues though. Heard many failures on hardware.info (dutch hw forum). Maybe consider WD green for efficient power usage? or WD black for performance? [B][I]•OS Solid State Disc: OCZSSD2-1SLD120G - 120Gb OCZ Solid Series Solid State Drive (SSD) SATAII £241.44 Inc VAT[/I][/B] DO NOT BUY THIS PLEASE!!!! Buy a OCZ vertex instead or a intel M-80 or E-80 server equivalent. The Solid, Core and Apex series have serious small write performance issues!!!! That's because of the jMicron controller that's been used with those products. The Vertex uses a new one from Idilynx, have one myself, performance quite good although doesn't beat Intel's [B][I]•GPU: Palit 9500 GT SUPER, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 550MHz, 32 Cores, HDTV/ D-Sub/ DL DVI-I £43.67 Inc VAT[/I][/B] Why not onboard? [B][I]•PSU: Corsair HX Series PSU ATX, EPS12V, PS/2, Modular Power Supply £189.72 Inc VAT[/I][/B] How much wattage is this? You could get away with a ~500W. It seems too expensive to me. About the place to buy in Rotterdam, well it depends. You know, I know a lot about hardware but more about consumer parts, not so specific bussiness parts. I think [URL="http://www.alternate.nl/html/index.html"]alternate[/URL] is the best offline shop (also online) in the netherlands. [URL="http://azerty.nl/"]Azerty[/URL] I think is a real good online alternative (also cheaper). Both have the option to pre assemble the PC but you can also just buy parts. I have not ever heard of any shop called scan. About software RAID; I do not see how this is more unreliable, it will take more CPU usage. The drivers might play a big part in it though! Poor driver support maybe means poor software raid (dunno, just guessing here). Doesn't have to apply to all configs. There's no such thing really as Software or Hardware RAID. It's all software, just on different levels. If you use a expansion card or onboard controllers it uses either the northbridge (onboard) to process it or the card which always has some sort of CPU on it, also some cache RAM most of the time. That's why the last perform better. They are dedicated. [/QUOTE]
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