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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1014440" data-attributes="member: 82144">Hello again PABeaver&nbsp;No need to apologise. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />I don't think we've yet got to the bottom of this. Let me respond to your comments...&nbsp;For me your test does not confirm the tuner is not &quot;locked&quot;. MP will always reuse tuners like that - it is MP standard functionality. What I'm concerned about is whether:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">We're preventing other software (WMC, Sage etc.) from using the tuner.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">We're causing extra power use and heat.</li>
</ol>To do Jason's test, open your internet browser and navigate to <a href="http://&lt;IP" target="_blank">http://&lt;IP</a> address of your tuner here&gt;/tuner&lt;tuner number here&gt;/lockkey.In your case:&lt;IP address of your tuner here&gt; = 192.168.1.12&lt;tuner number here&gt; = 0, 1, or 2&nbsp;For example, go to <a href="http://192.168.1.12/tuner0/lockkey" target="_blank">http://192.168.1.12/tuner0/lockkey</a> to see if the first tuner is locked.Note for anybody else reading this thread: this only works for HDHR PRIMEs.&nbsp;Lets be very clear. In the screenshots you posted &quot;locked&quot; means the tuner has found TV signals from the cable provider. It does not mean that the tuner is in use, and it also doesn't mean that MP is blocking other software from using the tuner.&nbsp;Again, it comes back to the definition of locked.&quot;modulation lock&quot;, &quot;PCR lock&quot;, &quot;card OOB lock&quot;... these refer to whether the tuners have found cable signal.&quot;resource lock&quot;... that could mean MP is &quot;hogging&quot; the tuner and blocking other applications from using it.&nbsp;&nbsp;To me this suggests we do need to investigate further.FYI:<a href="http://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=10225" target="_blank">http://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=10225</a>&nbsp;This tells me WMC (PBDA) does things differently. That isn't necessarily bad or good - just another reason for us to investigate and understand.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd like to know if other Ceton owners are experiencing this too.Here is a test:1. Open TV Server configuration.2. Go to the manual control section.3. Select the first CableCARD tuner in the bottom area.4. Select any copy freely channel with the combo/drop-down boxes.5. Click &quot;start timeshifting&quot;... wait 15 seconds... then &quot;stop timeshifting&quot;.6. Repeat instructions 3 to 5 for all your other CableCARD tuners.7. Open up WMC or some other software that can be used to test the tuners.8. Attempt to tune a channel and start streaming with the other software.&nbsp;Are you able to do step 8, or does MP prevent it?&nbsp;mm</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1014440, member: 82144"] Hello again PABeaver No need to apologise. :) I don't think we've yet got to the bottom of this. Let me respond to your comments... For me your test does not confirm the tuner is not "locked". MP will always reuse tuners like that - it is MP standard functionality. What I'm concerned about is whether: [LIST=1] [*]We're preventing other software (WMC, Sage etc.) from using the tuner. [*]We're causing extra power use and heat. [/LIST] To do Jason's test, open your internet browser and navigate to [url]http://<IP[/url] address of your tuner here>/tuner<tuner number here>/lockkey. In your case: <IP address of your tuner here> = 192.168.1.12 <tuner number here> = 0, 1, or 2 For example, go to [url]http://192.168.1.12/tuner0/lockkey[/url] to see if the first tuner is locked. [I][SIZE=3]Note for anybody else reading this thread: this only works for HDHR PRIMEs.[/SIZE][/I] Lets be very clear. In the screenshots you posted "locked" means the tuner has found TV signals from the cable provider. It does [B]not[/B] mean that the tuner is in use, and it also doesn't mean that MP is blocking other software from using the tuner. Again, it comes back to the definition of locked. "modulation lock", "PCR lock", "card OOB lock"... these refer to whether the tuners have found cable signal. "resource lock"... that could mean MP is "hogging" the tuner and blocking other applications from using it. To me this suggests we do need to investigate further. FYI: [url]http://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=10225[/url] This tells me WMC (PBDA) does things differently. That isn't necessarily bad or good - just another reason for us to investigate and understand. I'd like to know if other Ceton owners are experiencing this too. Here is a test: 1. Open TV Server configuration. 2. Go to the manual control section. 3. Select the first CableCARD tuner in the bottom area. 4. Select any copy freely channel with the combo/drop-down boxes. 5. Click "start timeshifting"... wait 15 seconds... then "stop timeshifting". 6. Repeat instructions 3 to 5 for all your other CableCARD tuners. 7. Open up WMC or some other software that can be used to test the tuners. 8. Attempt to tune a channel and start streaming with the other software. Are you able to do step 8, or does MP prevent it? mm [/QUOTE]

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