Can't uncheck "Visible in Guide" in XMLTV (1 Viewer)

[longjohn119]

I rescanned the tuners and as usual it just screws up everything. I have a bunch of dulicate channels and even after I deleted them they still show up in the guide and still shows up in xmlTV but won't let me uncheck "Visible in Guide"

Do I really have delete everything and start over from scratch getting the cable channels numbers to jive with the tuner? All 99 of them)

And to really piss me off I couldn't even start a new thread in Chrome

More bugs in this progam and website than you can shake a stick at

 

[longjohn119]

Cripes this website doesn't seem to work with Chrome at all ..... The most popular browser for the internet today and I can't post anything? I have to download Firefox?

I'd like to add this has happened for me every time my cable or OTA channels get changed which averages about once per year and it never worked right and I have been using this since version 1.2. EVERY time I've tried to rescan the tuners (And process that pretty ridiculous and crude to begin with spitting out a bunch of meaningless irrelevant data) I just breaks the program making me have to completely start over from scratch and redoing 99 clear QAM stations and 12 OTA stations takes over half a day (4+ hrs) to renumber everything so it jives with the guides (Unknown 53-7 doesn't tell me much) and then I have to sync up all the channels again in xmlTV

This is just getting aggravating having to go through this every time my cable service changes something. This time there was a Double Switch because 2or 3 OTA channels changed because of some FCC rule and that changed a bunch of stuff on cab;e plus a couple the cable service threw in. I know the only way to make it work is to delete everything, rescan and spend hours sorting the mess out just because a handful of channel;s changed. Seems to me it's a bug, a known bug and it's just been ignored for some reason

Sorry to be critical and actually expecting things to be done right but put yourself in my shoes having to do this crap over and over and over which is frankly ridiculous in the 21st century

 

[mm1352000]

Hello

I have a bunch of dulicate channels and even after I deleted them they still show up in the guide...

Did you restart MediaPortal after deleting the channels? If not, you need to.

...and still shows up in xmlTV but won't let me uncheck "Visible in Guide"

The "visible in guide" tick box in the XMLTV plugin is only an indicator. That's why you can't change it. You can only change it in the TV/radio channels section.

Do I really have delete everything and start over from scratch getting the cable channels numbers to jive with the tuner? All 99 of them)

I don't understand what you're talking about. Please be more specific. An example, including screenshots, would be ideal.

And to really piss me off I couldn't even start a new thread in Chrome

@high

More bugs in this progam and website than you can shake a stick at

If you say so. Not sure that I agree.

Regards,
mm

 

[HTPCSourcer]

Cripes this website doesn't seem to work with Chrome at all ..... The most popular browser for the internet today and I can't post anything?

No problem here. "New Thread" dialogue is opening and I can enter information as I like.

 

[high]

And to really piss me off I couldn't even start a new thread in Chrome

there is no known issue with Chrome which i use myself but it might help if you clean your browser cache first and if the issue still persist post your version-number.
"Can't start a new thread" is not clear, does the link not work or is the link completely missing?

 

[mm1352000]

I'd like to add this has happened for me every time my cable or OTA channels get changed which averages about once per year and it never worked right and I have been using this since version 1.2. EVERY time I've tried to rescan the tuners (And process that pretty ridiculous and crude to begin with spitting out a bunch of meaningless irrelevant data)...

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Nobody has reported dissatisfaction with the ATSC or clear QAM scanning process, so that's why it hasn't changed very much. If you don't like the way TV Server does things then it would be great if you could specifically describe [with screenshots and/or comparison to other software, TVs or set top boxes where appropriate]:

• what "working right" means for you
• what you think is ridiculous and crude
• what you think is irrelevant

If you don't do this then nothing will change. That's not a threat; just a statement of fact. When people don't tell us what they like and don't like then we simply can't improve.

... I just breaks the program making me have to completely start over from scratch and redoing 99 clear QAM stations and 12 OTA stations takes over half a day (4+ hrs) to renumber everything so it jives with the guides (Unknown 53-7 doesn't tell me much)...

I wrote some of the ATSC and clear QAM scanning code, and yet I have pretty much no idea what you're talking about.

Specifically, I don't understand:

• what breaks
• what makes you have to start over
• what takes so long
• what is renumbering
• what guides you're comparing with

If you can explain these things then we can try to improve.

From the few things I do understand, about all I can say is:
1. If you're seeing lots of channels named "Unknown..." then you should try to increase the SDT/VCT timeout setting, as recommended in the wiki.

2. When a channel is named "Unknown..." it means TV Server was unable to acquire the channel's name and number.
That's very very common with clear QAM. Aside from the above recommendation (1) there's nothing we can do about it. Cable providers may or may not broadcast channel names and numbers in a way that a clear QAM tuner can understand. The FCC doesn't force them to do it... so they usually don't (typical, right!). The same limitations apply to all TV software that supports clear QAM.

3. Unknown X-Y has a meaning.
X is the physical channel (frequency) that the channel is broadcast on.
Y is the channel's program number.

I know that's not particularly helpful, but believe it or not those are literally the only details we have access to.

This is just getting aggravating having to go through this every time my cable service changes something. This time there was a Double Switch because 2or 3 OTA channels changed because of some FCC rule and that changed a bunch of stuff on cab;e plus a couple the cable service threw in. I know the only way to make it work is to delete everything, rescan and spend hours sorting the mess out just because a handful of channel;s changed. Seems to me it's a bug, a known bug and it's just been ignored for some reason

I'm sorry that you're feeling aggravated and frustrated. Best I can tell, the pattern you're describing is not a known bug. Like I said above, I'd be happy to look at what is going on if you can provide the descriptions to help me to understand.

Sorry to be critical and actually expecting things to be done right but put yourself in my shoes having to do this crap over and over and over which is frankly ridiculous in the 21st century

I don't mind if you're critical as long as you're constructive with it.
I should also explain that it is difficult for us to put ourselves in your shoes because AFAIK we currently don't have any developers based in the US or Canada. That means none of us receive our TV via ATSC or clear QAM, and therefore we don't use that scanning interface. That's why we're particularly reliant on receiving feedback from people like you when it comes to ATSC and clear QAM stuff.

Regards,
mm

 

[longjohn119]

It's still not working after scrubbing everything about mediaportal in the files and the registry and doing a clean install

EVERY TIME I do a scan it misses a main channel which means I lose 10 channels, if I do a rescan it's mucked up even worse so I have to clear the channels AND delete all the server logs. Fisrst time I scanned it missed everything on channel 51 .... So I deleted the logs and cleared everything out and scanned again (Actually I scanned twice as it is a dual tuner) and this time everything on channel 52 was missing (but it picked up 51 this time) and I'm ten channels short .... When it scans these channels it pegs both the signal level and the signal quality bars.... and then returns nothing

I tried NPVR after clearing out everything MediaPortal and it just worked and at 3 times the speed. Unfortunately I have never been able to get NPVR to stream to a client for more than 5 minutes before the picture locks up so here I am again seemingly wasting my time scanning and rescanning Clear QAM stations and still not getting the normal results I get with NPVR or my cheap digital TV' in the kitchen that tune Clear QAM stations without a miss ....

 

[mm1352000]

Okay, I'm starting to understand... but still missing most of the information I need to help you.

EVERY TIME I do a scan it misses a main channel which means I lose 10 channels...
When it scans these channels it pegs both the signal level and the signal quality bars.... and then returns nothing

Is it the same "main channel" (I call this a physical channel - a frequency) every time?
Could that be because of signal strength/quality issues?
I'm going to need to see TV service and TsWriter log files to understand what is happening. Unless you understand what is happening, you'll just keep going around in circles.

if I do a rescan it's mucked up even worse so I have to clear the channels AND delete all the server logs.

I don't understand.
What is mucked up? Please be specific: an example, screenshots... as previously requested.
Why on Earth do you have to delete all the server logs? I can't think of any reason you'd need to do this.

Actually I scanned twice as it is a dual tuner

Actually scanning twice is completely unnecessary, even with a dual tuner... or any number of tuners.
Scan once then map/link the channels that were found to your other tuners.
That is exactly what this section of TV Server configuration is for:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...Server_Configuration/03_TV_Channels/2_Mapping

 

[longjohn119]

Third try, picked up 51 and 52 this time and dropped channel (and subchannels) 54 which is supposed to have 12 subchannels so now I'm 12 channels short ..... Most of my Clear QAM virtual channels are on physical channels 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 90, 97 and 108

What does Found=2, updated=0 and found=0, updated=166 ....etc supposed to actually mean?

 

[mm1352000]

Please answer my questions and post the log files that I requested so that I can help you.

What does Found=2, updated=0 and found=0, updated=166 ....etc supposed to actually mean?

They're counts of the number of channels found/updated during the scan.