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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1133506" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p></p></blockquote><p>Nobody has reported dissatisfaction with the ATSC or clear QAM scanning process, so that's why it hasn't changed very much. If you don't like the way TV Server does things then it would be great if you could specifically describe [with screenshots and/or comparison to other software, TVs or set top boxes where appropriate]:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">what "working right" means for you</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">what you think is ridiculous and crude</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">what you think is irrelevant</li> </ul><p>If you don't do this then nothing will change. That's not a threat; just a statement of fact. When people don't tell us what they like and don't like then we simply can't improve. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wrote some of the ATSC and clear QAM scanning code, and yet I have pretty much no idea what you're talking about. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Specifically, I don't understand:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">what breaks</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">what makes you have to start over</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">what takes so long</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">what is renumbering</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">what guides you're comparing with</li> </ul><p>If you can explain these things then we can try to improve. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>From the few things I do understand, about all I can say is:</p><p>1. If you're seeing lots of channels named "Unknown..." then you should try to increase the SDT/VCT timeout setting, as recommended in the wiki.</p><p></p><p>2. When a channel is named "Unknown..." it means TV Server was unable to acquire the channel's name and number.</p><p>That's very <strong>very</strong> common with clear QAM. Aside from the above recommendation (1) there's nothing we can do about it. Cable providers may or may not broadcast channel names and numbers in a way that a clear QAM tuner can understand. The FCC doesn't force them to do it... so they usually don't (typical, right!). The same limitations apply to all TV software that supports clear QAM.</p><p></p><p>3. Unknown X-Y has a meaning.</p><p>X is the physical channel (frequency) that the channel is broadcast on.</p><p>Y is the channel's program number.</p><p></p><p>I know that's not particularly helpful, but believe it or not those are literally the only details we have access to.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry that you're feeling aggravated and frustrated. Best I can tell, the pattern you're describing is not a known bug. Like I said above, I'd be happy to look at what is going on if you can provide the descriptions to help me to understand.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't mind if you're critical as long as you're constructive with it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I should also explain that it is difficult for us to put ourselves in your shoes because AFAIK we currently don't have any developers based in the US or Canada. That means none of us receive our TV via ATSC or clear QAM, and therefore we don't use that scanning interface. That's why we're particularly reliant on receiving feedback from people like you when it comes to ATSC and clear QAM stuff.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p>mm</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1133506, member: 82144"] [/quote] Nobody has reported dissatisfaction with the ATSC or clear QAM scanning process, so that's why it hasn't changed very much. If you don't like the way TV Server does things then it would be great if you could specifically describe [with screenshots and/or comparison to other software, TVs or set top boxes where appropriate]: [LIST] [*]what "working right" means for you [*]what you think is ridiculous and crude [*]what you think is irrelevant [/LIST] If you don't do this then nothing will change. That's not a threat; just a statement of fact. When people don't tell us what they like and don't like then we simply can't improve. :) I wrote some of the ATSC and clear QAM scanning code, and yet I have pretty much no idea what you're talking about. :) Specifically, I don't understand: [LIST] [*]what breaks [*]what makes you have to start over [*]what takes so long [*]what is renumbering [*]what guides you're comparing with [/LIST] If you can explain these things then we can try to improve. :) From the few things I do understand, about all I can say is: 1. If you're seeing lots of channels named "Unknown..." then you should try to increase the SDT/VCT timeout setting, as recommended in the wiki. 2. When a channel is named "Unknown..." it means TV Server was unable to acquire the channel's name and number. That's very [B]very[/B] common with clear QAM. Aside from the above recommendation (1) there's nothing we can do about it. Cable providers may or may not broadcast channel names and numbers in a way that a clear QAM tuner can understand. The FCC doesn't force them to do it... so they usually don't (typical, right!). The same limitations apply to all TV software that supports clear QAM. 3. Unknown X-Y has a meaning. X is the physical channel (frequency) that the channel is broadcast on. Y is the channel's program number. I know that's not particularly helpful, but believe it or not those are literally the only details we have access to. I'm sorry that you're feeling aggravated and frustrated. Best I can tell, the pattern you're describing is not a known bug. Like I said above, I'd be happy to look at what is going on if you can provide the descriptions to help me to understand. I don't mind if you're critical as long as you're constructive with it. :) I should also explain that it is difficult for us to put ourselves in your shoes because AFAIK we currently don't have any developers based in the US or Canada. That means none of us receive our TV via ATSC or clear QAM, and therefore we don't use that scanning interface. That's why we're particularly reliant on receiving feedback from people like you when it comes to ATSC and clear QAM stuff. Regards, mm [/QUOTE]
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