Cine S2 + CI in Mediaportal 1.2.0 Alpha (1 Viewer)

[heiserfeger77]

Hello People,

I want to build a Mediaportalstation with a Cine S2 by DigitalDevices with Mediaportal 1.2.0 Alpha or futher Versions

In the changelog of the Alpharelase is a feature added which means that Cine S2 Card are supported.

Who know the detailed Featureset of the support.

1. Is it possible to use a CI-Modul?
2. Is it possible to use two Cine S2?
3. Is is possible to use the CI-Modul with two Cine S2 (4 Tuners)
4. Which CAM's are supported (for Sky or HD+)?
5. What are the Server-Requirements for the Server (Hardware, LAN)?
6. Have someone a running System of my wishcomponents?

Thanks at all answers

 

[mm1352000]

Hi there

Who know the detailed Featureset of the support.

morpheus_xx is the developer who added support. He knows the most. Have a look here.

Also have a look here at the wiki. For example, it tells you that the Cine S2 can only decode one scrambled channel at a time.

1. Is it possible to use a CI-Modul?

Yes

2. Is it possible to use two Cine S2?

I think so, although I do not have the card myself (let alone 2 of them).

3. Is is possible to use the CI-Modul with two Cine S2 (4 Tuners)

No, I don't think so. Since you can only decode one scrambled channel at a time I don't think it would be that useful anyway.

4. Which CAM's are supported (for Sky or HD+)?

Sorry, I don't know.

5. What are the Server-Requirements for the Server (Hardware, LAN)?

It is very hard to say the requirements. What hardware (CPU, motherboard) are you thinking of using?

6. Have someone a running System of my wishcomponents?

Sorry, not me.

 

[wisdom]

Hi,

I´m looking for same card (Cine S2 V6) with CI module and I´m confused now.

I want be able to decrypt 2 channels from different transponderst at same time (record one and watch another).

DD product description says that their CI module has:
MTD = Multi Transponder Decrypting is a new technology that allows up to 4 channels TV Tuner with only one CAM

But wiki says:
The Digital Devices CI module can only descramble ONE channel at the time

So, what is the situation? Thanks.

 

[mm1352000]

Hi wisdom

The situation is that the CAM is shared between multiple tuners (for the Cine it is 2). *Each tuner* can only decrypt one channel at a time. Note that the CAM must support decrypting multiple channels at once for it to work.

mm

 

[wisdom]

Thanks for fast reply mm1352000!

But I´m sorry, I still don´t understand. Is this mean that I can reach my goal?
So that one tuner is decrypting one channel which is recorded and second tuner is decrypting another channel which is watched?

Btw. I don´t understand, how one tuner can decrypt more channels at a time because one tuner can show/record only one channel - so there is no need to decrypt more on one tuner?

And I know, I need MTC CAM, which DD also provide (up to 4 channels).

And what about support in MePo (1.2.0 RC)? I looked into morpheus_xx thread (which you posted above) and found there a lot of problems with CAM from users.


I know I'm annoying, but DD products aren´t cheap and I want to make sure that I´ll spend a lot of money wisely and everything will work as I planned.

Sorry for my english, this things are little complicated to explain in foregin language

THANKS!

 

[mm1352000]

But I´m sorry, I still don´t understand. Is this mean that I can reach my goal?
So that one tuner is decrypting one channel which is recorded and second tuner is decrypting another channel which is watched?

Yes, you can reach your goal with the Cine and MP. *BUT* your CAM must also support decrypting two channels.

...one tuner can show/record only one channel...

This is not true. One tuner can allow you to view/record all channels for a single frequency. That could be 4, 5... even up to 10 channels sometimes. MediaPortal supports this! WMC does not.

...so there is no need to decrypt more on one tuner?

As above, not true. *Some* tuners (in MP: Digital Everywhere, Technotrend...) can decrypt multiple channels as long as they are on the same frequency/transponder/multiplex.

And I know, I need MTC CAM, which DD also provide (up to 4 channels).

Yes, this is correct.

And what about support in MePo (1.2.0 RC)? I looked into morpheus_xx thread (which you posted above) and found there a lot of problems with CAM from users.

This function is definitely supported in MP 1.2.0rc. Those people seem to have compatibility problems between their CAMs and DD tuners. I'm *very* interested to hear what DD have to say about this issue but unfortunately the people haven't passed on what DD said to them. If there is a problem with MP then I'd be happy to fix it, but DD needs to provide the information about what is going wrong.

I know I'm annoying, but DD products aren´t cheap and I want to make sure that I´ll spend a lot of money wisely and everything will work as I planned.

Not annoying - truly, I don't mind. I would do the same as you.

mm

 

[wisdom]

Thank you very much, now I completely understand.
So the last thing is to find a suitable CAM. I wrote to DD for advice, so we'll see

And for sure, I´ll post my progress here ...

 

[heiserfeger77]

AW: Cine S2 + CI in Mediaportal 1.2.0 Alpha

Hello wisdom,

i'm interessted of answer from DD. Can you write the advice from DD here in forum - perhaps it's good to know for other MP's too.

 

[wisdom]

Yes, here it is as I promised:

You can help by MTD (Multi transponder decrypting) decrypt multiple transponders.
All our Sat cards / CI support this feature, I recommend the Cine S2 V6, it has two expansion ports and can be expanded to 4 tuners with one tuner expansion module and they can still connect an additional CI. For the CAM module, I would recommend the Alphacrypt Classic, this can simultaneously decode up to 4 channels and supports Irdeto. Please note that the CAM modules in our shop with the name "Irdeto" can not decrypt Irdeto,this is only the name of the module, this modules can only decrypt Cryptoworks. Irdeto is only possible with these modules via an update from the manufacturer (charged), I recommend here the Alphacrypt Classic module.

An Overviewof the Modules from the manufactor MASCOM you'll find here:
MASCOM: Alle CI-Module im Vergleich

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again wisdom

Thanks for that , but it wasn't quite what I was after.

My question to DD is this:

Sometimes our users have problems scanning for channels when a CAM is inserted. It seems that the stream that we receive does not contain the PAT/SDT/PMT. Is this a CAM compatibility problem with your cards, or do we need to do something to ensure those PIDs are not blocked by the CAM?

mm